Uniface kook any information?

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  1. Ronnie 666

    Ronnie 666 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I recently got a unusual 2oz Ag Kook which is minted on 1 side 1994. The other side is blank and the rim has interrupted reeding like the normal 2oz kook from 1990's.
    I have checked out the coin and it is 0.999 Ag. Does anyone know what these were made for ? an exhibition, trial coin or ??

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    Someone polished off the Queen with sandpaper?

    There are plenty of polish marks on the Queens side but none on the kook.
    Someone hate the Queen so much...?
     
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    Never seen a kook like this. If the obverse was polished off, then coin would weight less than 2oz
    If genuine could be worth a few bob!
    M. R. Roberts (Wynnard Coins) was asking a motza for a 2000 mule Kook > $5000
     
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    Ronnie 666 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I found a few on UK EBay which are in mint condition.
    EBay no 311066118922 and 311066118836 and 201165507580.
    These are all 1994 like mine (2oz, 10oz and 1kg). This is not a sanded coin.
    The smooth side has a rim - cant sand the coin and preserve a rim ?
    I think it may have been made by the PM for a trial coin or some exhibition?
    I don't think its a mule ? Unfortunately
     
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    dragafem Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    so u did test the coin and came out 999 silver? Ive seen these before(and not just in silver) but I thought these were display "coins" therefore NOT made out of silver or any other precious metal...
     
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    Would you be interested in selling or doing a swap.
     
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    Can be done with CNC machines these days. What is the weight?
    If it genuine then it probably worth more in value.
     
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    The weight should be 62.270 g with capsules approx. 73.10 g more or less
     
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    Why?
     
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    It weighs in at 54g and yes on PM varifier it is 0.999 Ag. I think it was some sort of display coin but it is not a base metal - definitely 0.999 Ag.
    I spoke to some people from the Numismatic society and they don't know what it is? I find it stange that all the coins I have found are 1994.
     
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    so we have 8.27 gram missing. I guess someone have tampered with the coin.
     
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    Yes Chip the Perth Mint tampered with it. :D
     
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    The seller says the 10oz is not silver possibly silver plated copper but is selling the 2oz one as .999 silver?

    Why would any one copy a display coin nobody knows about?

    If PM made this in a 10oz silver plated for display why would they bother making the 2oz in .999 silver if it too was for display?
     
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    But the blank used by PM would have weighed correct for 2oz even if it wasnt stamped ?
     
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    I would guess ultra low mintage :)
     
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    It is not a standard 2oz minted kook as the interrupted reeding on the rim does not extend across the full thickness of the rim and is only on half the rim thickness. No kook has a half reed ? To me this looks like a half minted coin where only one face of the die was used. The reeding is on the minted side. Why the weight is different - no idea ??

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    Test coins for replacement dies on a heavy mintage? The Queen design stays the same over many coins designs over a year specific mintage with only date having to be changed for future years so they would have losts of spares, plus I am sure a Govt. mint would not be allowed to purposely de face a Royal coin? Its still Treason :lol:
     
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    The reeding comes from the collar, not the die.

    I'm guessing it was from a display set - there was a guy in Berlin at the World Money Fair with a bunch of display sets (none for sale), i think that they were contemporary with your coin.

    For a 2oz coin when silver was in the single digits per ounce, it would not have been worth the bother to source a base metal blank for the display items, but perhaps they had to be under a certain thickness etc.

    Strange about the reeding.
     
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    Surly it would have been just as hard to source or cut a thinner silver blank to what they were using? Make the coin fit the case not a case to fit coins?

    Perhaps they were not even pressed at perth mint which would make them worth even more?
     

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