[Translation] Mr. Ge's Panda Book

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  1. yennus

    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hey Panda people,

    I'm organizing a few copies of this book. Anyone else interested?

    It covers Modern Chinese Precious Metal Coins and Medals from 1979 to 2010.

    I like Peter Anthony's book (it's in English). But I think this is quickly becoming the other very important book to have (but it's all in Mandarin).

    Cost: $20 + platinum post (+$13.40 500g, +$17.70 3KG).
    ETA: 2-8weeks.

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    Book title: (Zhongguo Xiandai Guijinshu Bizhang Tupu)
    Translated: Modern Chinese Precious Metal Coins and Medals Illustrated Catalogue
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    Published: 2011-10-1
    ISBN: 978-7-5049-5918-8
    Pages: 277Pages

    Thanks.
     
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    silverstar1 New Member

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    This is a very cool book!
     
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    Sounds good, add me to the list please Yennus :)

    I am assuming there are pictures ...else my 2012 new years resolution will need to be to learn Mandarin!
     
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    Yes all pictures
    And the numbers are in arabig (1 2 3 ....9)
     
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    Chillidog New Member Silver Stacker

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    Can I please be add to the want list.
     
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    fishball New Member Silver Stacker

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    I would highly recommend this book even if you cannot speak Chinese or read it.

    Reasons being:

    1. A collector of Chinese Pandas with a Chinese book, you will look like a pro :lol:.
    2. There really isn't all that much to read, it's mostly numbers and pretty pictures
    3. The book is very comprehensive and covers a lot of coins, not just pandas
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    HAhahah... I like reason 1 to owning the book!

    "A collector of Chinese Pandas with a Chinese book, you will look like a pro"

    It is also my New Years resolution to improve my Mandarin.

    Mandarin word of the day: (Panda bear)
    Pinyin: Xing mo
    Aussie Romanisation: siong mao (like pronouncing "song" but with an "i" before the "o"... "mao" like in "Mao Tse Dong")
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    hey yennus, I like the language lesson :)

    Talking to group of graziers in for dinner last night while they're on holidays at the beach, the topic got to China and I said we'll probably all be talking Mandarin in 15 years. Over our friggin dead bodies was the general reply.: lol:
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hahaha... I was like that a few years ago... My dad had the foresight to send me to Mandarin lessons with a really old Taiwanese woman, and I was like, "as if I will ever need this." I quit those lessons and then went on to study Latin and German.

    15years later... I'm living in China... trying to learn Mandarin.

    Now when I head out to Cooma, I find my peers speaking fluent Mandarin...

    Lesson of the story? Dad should have gotten me a young Taiwanese woman to teach me Mandarin.
     
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    For those still considering, this book is incredible for the serious collector or investor. I got one of the signed editions about 2 months ago. The numbers in book are Arabic numerals, so you don't really need to read Chinese to understand what's in the book.

    Now if I could just find it after moving...
     
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    There is also a little price guide from Mr. Ge. The price guide has actual mintage whereas the panda book use planned mintage for some coin.

    I think one of it is 1998 silver panda 1oz.
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks Low... welcome to Silverstackers :)
     
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    Welcome as well low, do you have any links or places to view these at all ?
     
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    That price point is interesting, as I have not received my book does this come with the book or separate ? If available separate Yennus could you see if these are available I would be down for 1 as I am sure others would be also.

    Thanks
     
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    Separate.
     
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    Hi,

    The reason I mention this price guide is the difference between the planned mintage and actual mintage.

    If you read Badon's Chinese coin investment article and his "My Choice"

    * Popular low-mintage key dates: 1990, 1995, 1997, 1998 (prefer 1997 over 1998 temporarily while the market adjusts to Mr. Ge's new book info).

    That's plain wrong. 1998 has a lot lower real mintage than 1997.

    Why still prefer 1997? I don't know.

    If you only have the panda book you may get the wrong impression about the real mintage of certain coins.

    http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4589.0

    I hate this misleading info in Badon's list.
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hi Low,

    ahaha... I don't think Badon's list is intended to be misleading, it is just that different researchers come up with different conclusions regarding the perceived surviving mintage.

    Three different researchers, with similar results (i.e. not exactly the same results), that show that the 1990s Pandas are much rarer than the post 2000 Pandas.

    Mr. Ge, Peter Anthony and Badon... I trust them all regarding Pandas.
     
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    Hi Yennus,

    Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree.

    (prefer 1997 over 1998 temporarily while the market adjusts to Mr. Ge's new book info). Clearly the statement refer to Mr. Ge's new book, and thus, Mr. Ge's research.

    The panda book says planned mintage, though Mr. Ge use real mintage on most. If you want to know Mr. Ge's research on real mintage, you have to buy the price guide. It is a small Chinese TEXT only book. The number is in arabic though, but the coin name is in Chinese.

    In this case, it is misleading to say following Mr. Ge research, 1997 has lower mintage than 1998. At least it is not true for 1oz silver.

    That is plain wrong.
     
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    I showed this post to badon and he said words to the effect that it wasn't that 97s are numerically rarer than 98s, but that the 97s were formerly assumed to be much more common than we found out from Ge's information.

    As a result, the 97s have more upside than the 98s (which are already priced pretty high).

    So it's rarity per unit of price, if that makes sense.
     

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