Stolen Bullion

Discussion in 'General Precious Metals Discussion' started by Lunty, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. millededge

    millededge Active Member

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    camp x-ray, spelling division
    doesn't seem random

    a safe was opened

    that takes preparation
     
  2. Golden ChipMunk

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    I think there need a correction on the ABC bars , should be Ainslie Au 10 oz bar
    No doubt there are also ABC bars there, a lot of people get confuse with the logo.
    Please be advice..
     
  3. GRETZKY427

    GRETZKY427 Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Any updates on this?

    This would be everyones who collects/invests in precious metals worst nightmare.

    I really really hope they catch the pricks who did this.

    Cheers, HAPPY STACKING :)
     
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    Don't forget, undesirable opportunists are out and about tonight !, and I don't mean the law enforcement.

    My neighbour just rang to inform that an intruder had actually approached the house after getting onto the property, which is difficuilt to say the least. They were on foot, so must have climbed over and walked to the house, which is secure.
    The neighbours have access and were lazing around the pool deck, when their dog went off.
    It doesn't seem correct, and their pretext story is "flaky". Our neighbour escorted them off, two young folk, guy and girl, followed them to their 2002 Commodore, to find two others waiting in the vehicle.
    Cops have been informed.
     
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    House Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I recently did some consulting for a security company and couldn't believe the stats. As I've thankfully never experienced a home burglary before I'd never really thought about it.
    250,000+ homes broken into in NSW last year with Xmas/NY being the busiest time for burglars, there's an incredible surge in break-ins over this period.

    After the holidays, Mon-Fri between 8am and 1pm are unsurprisingly the most common times for break-ins while people are at work. Upgrade your locks, get yourself a back to base alarm and install some fake cameras (great deterrent). And store your PM's elsewhere.
     
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    and also buy a couple "dog bites sign" and 2 large dog bowls and put them at your back door,who say that you need a dog to display these things plus they are very very cheap :)

    Dogs (barking) are a crooks worst nightmare.

    A Happy and Prosperous (pm's of course) New Year to you All :D

    God Bless.

    CGS :)
     
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    I was going to go to the dog show this afternoon / tonight but after reading this warning I realised both houses either side of me will be out as well as both houses across the road. I'll stay home & continue painting in the 33 degree heat, gotta love the feeling of sweat running down your arms non stop. Thanks for the timely reminder guys much appreciated. You all be safe & have fun.
     
  9. Holdfast

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    Citizen's Arrest.

    Check the powers you have for your state.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest#New_South_Wales

    For folk in New South Wales.

    New South Wales Consolidated Acts

    LAW ENFORCEMENT (POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES) ACT 2002 - SECT 100

    Power of other persons to arrest without warrant

    100 Power of other persons to arrest without warrant

    (cf Crimes Act 1900 , s 352)

    (1) A person (other than a police officer) may, without a warrant, arrest a person if:

    (a) the person is in the act of committing an offence under any Act or statutory instrument, or

    (b) the person has just committed any such offence, or

    (c) the person has committed a serious indictable offence for which the person has not been tried.

    (2) A person who arrests another person under this section must, as soon as is reasonably practicable, take the person, and any property found on the person, before an authorised officer to be dealt with according to law.


    Victoria

    In the Australian state of Victoria, the power to arrest is granted in section 458 of the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic).[4] It states that a person may, without a warrant, arrest a person that they find committing an offence for one or more of the following reasons:

    to ensure the appearance of the offender in court, and/or
    to preserve public order, and/or
    to prevent the continuation or repetition of the offence, or the commission of a further offence, and/or
    for the safety or welfare of the public or the offender

    A person may also arrest another person if they are instructed to do so by a member of the police force, or if they believe on reasonable grounds that the offender is escaping legal custody.

    Section 461 states that if an arrest is made under 458 of the Crimes Act, and is later proven to be false, then the arrest itself won't be considered unlawful if it was done so on reasonable grounds. Section 462A allows any person the right to use force "not disproportionate to the objective as he believes on reasonable grounds to be necessary to prevent the commission, continuance or completion of an indictable offence or to effect or assist in effecting the lawful arrest of a person committing or suspected of committing any offence".
     
  10. SilverDJ

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    Or at very least get a top brand security safe and bolt it down, that should stop all but the most well prepared thieves that came ready for a safe job.
    IIRC Lunty's safe was a cheap bunnings type that opened like a butter tub?
    But yes, elsewhere is best.
     
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    I resisted commenting on this earlier but seeing its still floating this particular event still rings bells for me, I can't imagine such an event happening to anyone reasonable.. karma is a fuck time will tell
     
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    Holdfast Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Pauline?
     
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    Don't get a safe.

    Store them offsite in a vault, or do allocated somewhere.
     
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    Uh?? Random
     
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    Sure, but the lesson to be learned here I think is if you are going to store your valuables at home, at least get a real quality brand safe with a proper rating.
    And an alarm to go along with it so it potentially gives them less time to crack it open if they do find it.
     
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    here there everywhere
    :rolleyes:
     
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    And your contribution to this discussion is?...
     
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    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Is that you have learnt anything ;)
     
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    I assume you meant "haven't".
    That's why I highlighted the word "are".
    I'm sure that there are people on here that will continue to store PM's at home (for whatever reason) regardless of what has happened here, so I thought I'd open the discussion up.
    i.e. might Lunty have had a fighting chance if he had a "real" safe?
    I've read there were 3 local PM home robberies in recent times? How safely did they all store them? Any lessons to be learned about safe storage at home?
    Yes, i think it's silly to store PM's at home, so much so that I don't even bother with physical PM's at all. It's all 1's and 0's somewhere.
    I don't quite understand why someone would take physical position and then shuffle it back to a SDB or storage facility somewhere. In that case why lot just let them store it in the first place?
    I can understand the desire to store at home though, being able to fondle it and all.
    Well, technically I do have physical bars and coins allocated somewhere, but I'm taking their word for that, I've never seen them.
    I don't know anyone personally who's into PM's, but I know a few that store cash and other valuables at home in safes, and they all have hulking top name brand safes that make Lunty's one I saw a photo of some time back look like a tin can Bunnings special.
     
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    No.
     

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