yes i'm back... is it too much to ask if someone is shelling out 15 bucks for this micro poster for a Chris Duane signature? a Heidi signature? a damn dog print? can i get a what what same thing happened with alex jones when he started out w/ his magazine he finally went back then started selling signed copies... it's an obvious thing to do might sound silly to you but this crap matters people are collecting all this crap cause it's gonna be fun to have in 10 years time... remember when jones came out w/ infowars the magazine... or silvercircle came out w/ their book and did the convention circuit yada yada
ok im sitting here watching bill o'reily... man there's nothing on friday nites it's 8:08 est and i just checked SBSS site... up pops promotional COA and red numbers now have increased and are up to 0370 so uh this is not just some generic graphic rendering of a COA? this is real time? screw it we'll do it live... i'll read it myself and we'll do it live what the holy heck!... how are these numbers meaningful when on the shop tab under "special BU proof" it's not showing any mintage figures whatsoever... so it's 0370 + mystery number? this coin is 20 bucks over sport right? i mean proof libertads even on the biggest years never went over 10k... and those are beautifully struck proofs let's try to keep these suckers under 10k if at all possible especailly if you're minting more in a few months check it out 54 bucks 1 ounce proof mintate correction 11k on the 2008 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-2...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
do you drink a lot of coffee? me, not so much. i had a cup last saturday and it kept me up til 6am drinking beer haha anyway, thought id share some nostalgia with you i just brought on My first purchase of PM's: on May 2006, was 21 x 2006 1oz Silver American Eagles (Gem Uncirculated) $12.71 each = $266.91
lol loove me some coffee i usually don't blog much but i noticed so very much debate over SBSS over the last little while i decided i'd do someone a favor and attempt to broach each and every issue one might have and want to explore b4 making a purchase... that requires going the extra mile if it's going to be of use it requires being devil's advocate a lot of people just sit in the bushes and read all the posts then plot about how they'll go about buying and re-selling and building a strategy that's cool and fine but you gotta contribute a little bit to the conversation that probably is more of a pet peeve than whether Duane issues restrikes reason why ultimately why that won't matter that much is because if it's a big issue... then they simply won't sell many of those and therefore those who would have bought the 1st years won't be harmed... they be harmed because it might not be popular in the aftermarket at a higher price point but if there is continued tremendous demand even for restrikes w/ a new year... well then that just a reflection of a fantastic design in which case the value of the 1st year should not to any large degree be hurt and there probably still will be a window between issues if someone wants to sell and prehaps nice appreciation aas well if they were worried ... it'll come out in the wash and it'll al get worked out by the market but that still doesn't mean that there are not better ways of going about certain aspects of rolling this entire behomoth out i mean here's the deal... right on the website it says theese things are "limited edition" ok that's plastered right on the site... it also has an area for "past projects" now i'm 100% they can come up w/ some legalise way to justify these ltd. edition past projects pop right back up again in 12 months but it's gonna really tick some people off and all of it is unnecessary drama for a whole bunch of reasons all of these issues can be addressed cleanly and actually creatively cause i really don't think it's gonna matter at the end of the day but if some guy says to me he's pissed cause he bought these things cause hey thought they were one off limited edition artist commissioned deisgned medallions and he's upset they're making more.... i gotta be honest i gotta respect his position... i really do and if the SBSS team tries to tell the guy... you see what you did buy was original it was original to 2013 you see this other medallion over here is original and limited edition to the year 2014... lol you see the problem is these things are not being marketed as coins... where it would make sense at some level to think in terms of coins and years and repeated design potential they're being sold as MEDALLIONS artist commissioned and artist rendered
okie dokie couple days ago AND AFTER proof freedom girl went "discontinued" on their site made sure to jot down where those numbers stood... and i thought i had seen 6755 and that's what i have in my notes now again following my online chat w/ the rep at SBSS i was informed that remaining retail proof inventory in the pipeline had already been accounted for and was baked into the "medallions purchased so far" figure on the site well... number is showinhg 6795... perhaps i wrote down the wrong number previously? anyways go check it out... where she stops can anyone know? they're still for sale retail btw.. keeping an eye on that.. already got an idea of where they stand inventory-wise and so have an idea when they'd be running out give or take a bit but i'll be calliing back to check on that as well if they indeed don't run out and i see these numbers on SBSS continue to rise afterall if is true that they've committed to restriking the same design in a few months anyway and slapping a different date... you'd hope they at the very least would still stick to cut-off dates on each year... now i'm 100% that'd not be too much to ask dontchathink we shall see but i'm fairly sure there's a perfectly good reason why the discontinued numbers might continue to rise as I don't think it's exactly Price Waterhouse over there and everyone is and should be cutting them slack on that but uh durrrrr make the numbers stop pretty please? or don't whatevers clever?
I'm pretty upset about the fact that the molds will be re-used. i feel like it cheapens these "limited edition" rounds. I'll still buy one of each but not more than that. I like the message behind the rounds but they seem to be a bit cluttered. Sometimes less is more. The quality seems to improve with each release. Some of the Debt and Death rounds should never have been released.
quality on FG proof and BU actually exceeds what I'd think would be fair and reasonable to expect (can't speak to prior runs) but still full real time transparency is sorta key i'd think/// having to hunt down comments on youtube channels to find answers... not ideal
We thought we were on to a great series at the start, now they have certainly killed it. Quality control is still lacking. The fact they are going to pump out 30 coins for the year, then remint them all again next year is turning people off the series. The proofs are a waste of hard earned. Great artwork, reminting all again next year is a cash grab, F@#$ the investor/collector. We understand the pain! Remint it, wack a privvy on it, do a proof,raise the mintage, creativity is not lacking when trying to find an excuse to keep minting. We dont sit on our hands and complain about either, we are doing something about it. We think SGB is big enough and ugly enough to give sbss and others a run for their money. Sbss seems to have lost focus, maybe clouded by $$$$.
well i've only held a proof in hand and as for BU's have been relying on pics so I'll reserve total judgement on quality but so far regarding FG seems fine to me... but you bring up this point and i was leaving it for later... you quote 30 coins... i guess i had heard there were gonna be a bunch but at this current pace they'll be lucky to crank out 7 by end of 2013 what is SGB btw? and what might you be alluding to?
as of 7:59 est on provident... when i try to check out w/ 9999 "73 or fewer of this item are allowed in your cart at this time. Please adjust the quantity and try again. (Product: Proof Silver Bullet Silver Shield - Freedom Girl | 1 oz .999 Fine Silver Bullion Round)"
Well what do ya know? Turns out all the D&D I bought are #5 variant, SCORE. ON the design releases being at 30, I don't think they mean 30 Unique designs. Were 2 months in and 2 coins released. But when you look at the different versions, there are actually 5 coins. 6 If you count the Copper D&D. With that logic, one design ever 5 weeks would put you at ten, so around 30 when you count the proofs as well. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me... The fact that Provident picked them up must count for SOMETHING
also, the price really isn't that bad. Where I am eagles run 4.50-5 over spot. Best price generics run about a buck over spot. Im more than willing to gamble an extra $2. That makes each coin a poor man blackjack bet. To anyone buying these my suggestion would be to get slave queens while you can. If provident carries every coin after Freedom girl, then queens will be worth the extra $2 over a generic round.... Im an optimist.
well it's friday nite and thought i'd try to add 9999 proofs to the shopping cart and see how many were left... well looks like I CAN ADD 9999 to the cart.. man that's a lot guess gonna have to call and see how many they have to sell
well ok here we go just checked the SBSS figures yet again... and looks like they've MOVED AGAIN!!! ok but at least this time they appear to have moved back DOWN 6757 is what i'm seeing on a side note got to hold a BU freedom girl in hand looks great if that's any consolation
just a heads up you might wanna call over to provident metals i just spoke with them... if anyone's curious about why it is you can put 9999 of these proofs in the cart and check out you might be interested in giving them a ring a ding.... i'm over all this at this point "listen to all - follow none" btw... here's an example of how ebay sellers are actually MISREPRESENTING these coins... not their fault really but notice the mintage figure that he is quoting he has that old number that I posted about earlier in the thread "2013 Silver Bullet Silver Shield 1 oz Silver Freedom Girl Proof Coin Mintage of ONLY 6,795 Coins! For sale is a 2013 Silver Bullet Silver Shield 1 oz Freedom Girl Proof Coin This limited edition 2013 Freedom Girl Proof coin has a mintage of ONLY 6,795 coins and is no longer available from the mint. These coins were only available to purchase for two weeks and are now only available on the secondary market. This coin is a must have, especially for fans of Chris Duane and everything he does. " AOCS approved.
Can you save me the phone call and just tell me what they told you? IM assuming they said its unlimited mintage on them. If that's the case, im sure I can sell them on ebay pretty fast as a decent price...... guess well have to wait and see.
if you only have 1 or 2 i would not sweat it... if you had a small few and learning that there might be more FG proofs than those SBSS numbers then you can actually sell em on ebay at a profit right now last i checked... basically i've found it nearly impossible to narrow down both how many have been made and how many more 2013 FG proofs could theoretically be punched out..... keeping in mind it looks like 2014 FG will be showing up i'm still trying to figure out how many 2013 proofs they'll end up being 1st!!! I had thought that those SBSS were actually reflecting real-time numbers (or close there-to) that were purchased by the likes of Provident, and i had reason to believe this... that apparently turned out to not be the case at all... not to be rude but if you're in a position where it would actually make a real difference to you I'd send a mssg over to SBSS first then follow up w/ provident if you needed clarification you could also shoot an email over to mulligan mint... i hadn't done that but at this point that might be the optimal option
