SBSS Debt & Death matte finish

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  1. cabaretvolt

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    daniel that was a joke
     
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    Well, no better way to kill the series!
     
  3. cabaretvolt

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    ok i've done enough grunt work someone else take this... please post the link to where they're claiming
    they've discovered that proof girl could indeed return down the road yet again... someone said it was
    on "their site" but posted no link... i couldn't find anything stating anything like that but didn't exhaust
    every nook or cranny
     
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    i really see zero rationale for why they'd ever want to even attempt
    to bring FG back... hell they have Heidi.. you guys ever check out
    her site and bio/resume... not as if she's a one hit wonder
     
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    I cant find anything about it either.
     
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    Have to agree there
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    sbss wants to have many finishing, wow 30 coins with a few types and proof

    there will be re-used with different years of bullets :)

    that would make the whole set close to 120 ounces :( so many and too long.
     
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    Sorry my mistake details below.

    "TruthNeverTold 3 days ago

    Every coin we design will get reused at some point in the next year.

    They will not be out for very long each time going forward with a new year on the back."

    From the comments under "Final Debt And Death Owed To Me" youtube video, comment by Chris Duane.
     
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    I woke up today and came to the office still annoyed with them that i could not place an order with CC#

    Im Salty i guess you could say. Oh well i guess ill go grab an Engelhard 10oz Bar for $320 at my LCS. I got a nice hand poured yesterday and today ill get a little pressed bar in OMP.

    Looks like SBSS lost out on a buyer by not fixing a problem that should be a no brainer. This just shows they don't have their shit together at all. I make purchases at least 3 times per week not including ebay which is pretty much every day. I was planning on buying at least 4-5 of each one yesterday and then buying 4-5 on each release. If you calculate that it over the coarse of a year i would be a decent customer but i guess they don't care unless you are a dealer.
     
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    well i stand corrected did see that youtube comment about striking the design yet again down the road
    seems like a legit comment... does this apply to both BU and proofs? only change being the year stamp?
     
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    if they do decide they're gonna do restrikes of all these designs at some future point
    they should once every 12 months do a complete overhaul of the reverse shield

    don't merely change the date stamp and assume that'll be enough... DON'T KID YOURSELF
    if at the end of 4 years 4 different FG's have come out but they all have different reverses
    doesn't have to be radically different... but heck something different above date stamp

    then FG collectors will want to collect all 4 designs... if it's jsut 4 different date stamps?
    durrrrrrr forgitabouit
     
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    by the way... here's a prediction
    within 6 months they'll be striking 1/2 versions of these medallions
    setting them in bezels w/ necklaces and selling them for $100 each
    they'll advirtise it right there next to the $20 dvd on why you need
    to buy silver :lol:

    by the way send me a pm when you decide to do this SSBS lurkers
    so i can tell you where to send my complimentary FG necklace
     
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    and oh yeah here's another thing
    these damn t-shirts

    here's some free advice... let people know who makes the t-shirt please isthat too much to ask
    looks like an American Apparel tag... but can't be certain... people who would buy this shirt
    slacker/libertairian/emo/hipster what have you prefer American Apparel 50/50 poly-cotton blend
    NOT 100% COTTON

    anyways thought everyone knew that but then again i've printed thousands of tshirts for bands
    organizations etc Every band that wanted to sell t-shirts and who were smart chose to pay a few
    extra bucks and print the logo on AA 50/50

    you go w/ that crappy 100% no-name cotton blend and you get to sell 4 or 5... AA has beautiful
    t-shirts that are tailored specifically to women.... ultra soft 50/50 blend... why don't you have
    a picture of a girl in the t-shirt?
     
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    i can't help myself... heres something else on the off chance SBSS read this board
    why on earth are the heads of the t-shirt models cut off? you guys are suppose to
    try to be selling some sort of "movement?"

    yeah agree with that? ok good... so here's what you do you take pictures of both
    men and women actually wearing the tshirts and you take those pictures of them
    OUTSIDE somewhere around town... ie... a girl outside a coffeshop or some crap like
    that

    pick a girl as a model who wears glasses tatoos are ok.... the picture of the guy should
    not be intimidating... it's ok if he is great looking but if he is make sure he is short not
    tall... if he is tall he can't be super good looking... too much of a coincidence and people
    will know he's a hired model

    put up pictures of the models giving the thumbs up in the picture... this says... look
    i'm spreading the SILVER GOSPEL... i'm doing my part now you do yours and buy one
    of these damn t-shirts

    all you guys are doing now w/ this cropped off head generic picture of a t-shirt is saying
    hey sucker buy this t-shirt we're trying to make money... we're lazy and we don't give
    2 shits about anything but money
     
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    ok i got a nice timely message back from truthnevertold youtube channel
    which i'm just gonna assume represents SBSS but i could be 100% wrong
    about this... DYODD

    was told that yes "every design WOULD BE USED IN SUCCESSIVE YEARS but in
    smaller time frames"

    i suggested they do something like a FG#2 same girl but designed w/ FG in a
    new unique pose.... NOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING!!!! now that would
    create buzz

    he also mentioned fractionals as well which we all probably have been expecting
    he seemed pretty dang confident that all the haters would be proven wrong
    he may be right but there are a lot of ways to roll this thing out wrong

    these aren't sneakers... coins/medallions designs mintage limits proof limits
    run length times... consumer sentiment... all this stuff is super duper fragile
    when it comes to what they're supposedly trying to do....

    printing generic rounds is one thing... art medallions is another thing... don't try
    to be both which will be the temptation
     
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    ok i thought there was a pretty decent chance someone would
    list a Proof FG on the bay at 12:01 am for $800 :lol:

    alas they waited a few hours and only put it up for $119.00
    he's making a mistake in his listing format by group 10 together
    at this price point imo

    he's using the right format in my opinion in listing an available
    quantity of 10 obo but since he's listing 10 at once i'd have
    priced it at $135 obo

    basically he's saying i only have 10 of these things and am dumping
    them all right now if i can

    or he's aware there might still be that closing window whereby he
    can flip these and still have time to run over to the retailers b4
    they run out of their dwindling supply of proofs
     
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    btw provident still has proofs available for sale
    in fact they have them available for "PRE SALE!!!"

    it's the pre sale for the discontinued proof... anywhooo

    heres the deal... provident has them as pre-sale as they're
    arriving March 8th i think it was... that or the 6th

    they only have a few hundred coming in and they won't
    oversell... as their computer system will sort and deduct
    orders out of arriving final proofs

    now again... following my chat w/ the online rep on the SBSS
    site these final proof sales should NOT change final mintage
    numbers as posted on the SBSS site

    but again be careful in how many of these you decide to purchase
    because there are possible indications that they might be MINTING MORE
    OF THIS IDENTICAL DESIGN IN A FEW MONTHS! DYODD

    but it's still a buy if you ask me just be aware of this possibility
     
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    got a final mssg form the truthnevertold youtube channel
    which again... i do not know for certain if this represents SBSS
    DYODD

    but that mssg. stated

    "There will be plenty of beautiful girls but only 1 Freedom Girl... each year"

    i had a comment was gonna post i'm not gonna post it... chima in ya'll
    if you have an opinion
     
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    first completed ebay listing for the proof post cut off day
    unsold at $65 plus $10 ship no bids 281071629952

    just list this damn thing starting at .01 auction good grief
    i hate these people w/ inflated opening bids or do a bin best

    verdict will still be way out till provident sells out

    and there you have it everything you wanted to know
    about SBSS medallions... now on to the next issue
     
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    oh gosh i'm back again
    ok i just gotta know because i went over to the sbss site
    and they're doing this 1day only sale of the dual finish proof
    so... you know what i'm wondering don't you

    will they be selling this this same exact coin next year w/
    a different date?

    but at least you get the bumper sticker!!! lol no but seriously
    did you see the vehicle they chose to put that decal on?

    is that a $50,000 BMW SUV? really? that's the counter-cultural
    vehicle w/ the sardonic "slave on"

    helllloooooo earth to silver shield... you know i love ya but come
    on... i'm buyin but you gotta help me out a little here



    oh wait on this SQ dual finish... had me fooled there
    for a second... don't think this is a one day only sale
    maybe just a one day only thing to qualify for the bumper sticker?

    you know what it was that got me? it was those red numbers
    that were ticking away kinda like QVC. like this is it!!! once they're
    gone they're gone... but i went over to the shop tab and clicked on
    Slave queen and there it is 2 varieties ready to be put into the
    cart... now it's not showing any mintage figures... so a little confusing
    why is it confusing? because....

    you click on SBSS fresh and up pops the march 1st only promotion
    for the sticker + dual finish SQ.. and the COA pops up and red numbers start ticking
    and i'm like... oh goodness only 300 something sold and only 24hours!!!!
    ... but wait

    is this the same dual finish proof that has been up there for a while
    now... sorry i'm late to this party just trying to figure all this out
    on the fly

    ok now obviously if you're shelling out money for this proof a bumpersticker
    should be included free... because its cheap advirtisement for SBSS
    most especially if you're just starting up... but i see why they did it
    its a good excuse to throw up a promotion and be able to say 1 day only?

    do i still love Freedom Gril and Slave Queen? you bet i do but ummmmm
    durrrrr uhhhhhhh.... i feel like i'm reading Agatha Christie everytime i'm hit
    their site


    ok now as of 7:16 est... its show 0362 in red numbers on the COA that pops
    up as part of this march 1st SQ bumpersticker promotion... now keep in mind
    when you first open this page and the promo pops up the numbers start climbing
    up from about 0328... but all this is really a moot point right? because
    on the SQ shop tabs it doesn't show any mintage figure for SQ proofs period...
    so who cares how theese numbers on the COA w/ red numbers changes because
    they only end up being added to the already minted SQ dual proofs and those
    figures are not anywhere on the site to begin with

    okie dokie... so hopefully hopefully... if i click on this promo a little later the red
    numbers will continue to read only 0362 indicating that this is only a generic
    image of what a COA looks like and represents nothing else... i'll be grabbing
    my popcorn

    all this is important because i was speaking w/ SBSS online agent and there was
    some confusion i think about which coin they had mintage numbers on and which
    one they didn't anyway i was confused is all i know... then we got cut off but
    b4 i could get final clarity... i'm gonna try to ring in about these the dual SQ's tomorrow
    cause i wanna get some of the proofs but can't pull the trigger as it stands
     

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