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  1. Marsi

    Marsi Member Silver Stacker

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    Marsi Member Silver Stacker

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    The fakes are pretty good .


    Hamilton coin collectors and pawn shops are getting duped.

    Police are warning that fake U.S silver eagle dollar coins have been circulating in the city and have been sold to various establishments over the past few months.

    "You wouldn't be able to tell the difference (with) the naked eye. The coins are actually very high quality fakes," Const. Mike La Combe said in a Hamilton Police YouTube video. "They are silver and nickel-plated, which gives them the look of an actual silver dollar. However, when you cut them open, you can clearly see on the inside, they are brass filled."

    The video shows some of the roughly 500 fakes that have been confiscated so far.

    "They are worth practically nothing, just a couple cents each," La Combe explained


    http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/story/2013/04/25/hamilton-fake-silver-coin.html
























    GRAND TRAVERSE CO. -- Police are looking for a woman who they say sold several hundred fake silver bars to local metal buyers under the guise that it was real silver.

    According to police, a 40-year-old white woman came to the Traverse City area in late April and sold these metal bars to at least three different precious metal buyers in the area.

    On April 27th, the woman walked into Bay West Antiques and sold 100 silver bars to store owners, Holly Dalley and her husband Pete. Real silvers bars are currently worth just over $24.00 each.

    "She came in, she sat down, she had a couple of boxes," said Dalley. "She said there were 50 1-ounce bars in each box. I looked at the first one, I didn't take it out of it's plastic. I just saw that and said everything looked good. There wasn't anything that would have indicated that it was fake at all."

    http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=893244#.UYhYyb7D_ND
     
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    Boyo Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Ha ha ..the clue is in the website name...... thanks for posting ..always good to see what the rouges are up to

    Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves comes to mind :)
     
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    They're currently considering going public with an IPO of $65-$100bn. Surely a legit company can't be facilitating the distribution of these obvious fakes and be getting away with it so easy.

    The owner, Jack Ma, is worth $3bn+
     
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    Yep its a legit trade site ive used it many times . They cannot be responsible for what others are selling its just a B2B sales platform .. Its all about caveat emptor im afraid the buyer needs to do their research before buying & importing . Its usually the laws of the country thats importing the goods not the one manufacturing it thats broken
     
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    These fakes don't come in Certicards. They are loose.

    Apart from the 10oz PAMP gold bars last year in New York which were substituted in real packaging that had been opened and restapled, I've never seen a fake gold bar in a card.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's not too much extra to fake packaging. See http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/787299713/1_ounce_pamp_suisse_palladium_bar.html
     
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    That's a genuine PAMP bar in the picture - often sellers will show the real products in their pics.
     
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    I have been so close to buying some of these things in the past of ebay, from memory the stage coach divisible to1/4 ounce caught my eye a few times so did many others I'm sure. The only thing stopping me was the ebay premium. Don't know if they were fake or not but good chance that they were. Just shocked to see so many relatively small bars and coins faked, thought they would concentrate on 10 oz and above but clearly not.
     
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    I'd be lying if I said that I didn't calculate the profit of a 1000 pieces of fakes verus the selling them at a little above spot price.
     
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    Marsi Member Silver Stacker

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    Watched telly last night and booze is also being faked in a big way. A counterfeit Jacobs creek bottle of wine was shown next to the real thing, looked identical except for the small spelling mistakes in the fine print on the label.
     
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    Possibly it is. My point is that packaging would be quite easy to fake, and if fakes did have packaging it may be less likely to be tested as people don't want to "break the seal".
     
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    Could there be justification in a stacker having some as a 'decoy'? Those stackers who worry about being targetted, because their address is known, having an easily found 'stack' that a burglar can make off with whilst leaving the real stuff behind? That 'obvious' safe, easily accessed full of decoy stuff.....
     
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    So many reasons not to do that.
     
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    No that's been mentioned a number of times before and is a pretty stupid idea.

    1. burglar finds said safe and takes off with fake loot when nobody is home
    2. burglar tries to sell loot and finds out they are fake
    3. burglar is really pissed they've been made a fool of
    4. burglar figures there must be real loot in a hidden safe somewhere
    5. burglar comes back (with friends) when somebody is home to get the real stuff and teach the smartarse (ie: you) a lesson
     
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    OK this is really worrying -

    I changed the search string from bar to coin and there are:

    fake kooks
    fake koalas
    fake dragons

    ... and that was only in the first couple of hundred listings
     
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    1999 kook looks worse then the original lol, the feathers look like rocks
     
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    WHERE are Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Ra, Zeus, Thor, Odin, Huitzilopochtli, Quetzalcoatl and all the rest of those guys when you really need them???

    I'd like to see lightning bolts zapping down from above, incinerating every place where this crap is made as well as every last no-good SOB who has anything to
    do with any of those places or ever knowingly sold so much as one piece of this garbage. I ask this in the name of blahblah, yadayada and etcetc. Amen.
     

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