China Commercial Bank holdings.

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  1. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Source: https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/k...ls-on-chinese-commercial-bank-balance-sheets/

     
  2. Ipv6Ready

    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hey Julie, is this a lot for an economy the size of China?
     
  3. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I think the significance is the addition to official reserves that were announced a while back.

    The article points out the difficulty of determining if they are physical or paper, but I'd tend toward physical - it's a Chinese tradition.

    And to answer your question, probably not a large amount relative to their economy but probably a large amount relative to those balance sheets.
     
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    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks just came across this...

    BOC sell physical gold
    http://www.bochk.com/en/investment/metal/trade.html

    BOC also have paper trading account

    www.bochk.com/dam/document/retail/pdf/pmkfse.pdf

    Some other searching it seems there are just as many Chinese pumpers who would put Maloney to shame lol.

    And as you point out as with many Asian cultures, Chinese citizens with cash seems to be holding a lot gold, and as they get richer they by more.
     
  5. Ipv6Ready

    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Lol they have over 2000 branches that stock and sell gold.

    If they held 10 ounce each that is 20,000 ounces 600kg. Put I presume each branch will hold more tha 10ounces
     
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    @JulieW,

    I guess Jim Rickard is correct, China is accumulating Gold, so that it secures it economic position during the downturn.
     
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    My bet is at least 10,000 Tonnes!

    Annual production is 400 tonnes and ALL retained!

    OC
     
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    I wonder why they hold gold, and not Australian real estate. I would have thought the latter to be more profitable?
     
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    They want as much of both as possible!
     
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    China wants to back it's currency with gold. I do not know if those banks listed there are owned by the Chinese government.
     
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    willrocks Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Why would they want to revive an archaic monetary system?
     
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    Wow, if that's The case then gold price can be skyrocketing due to China buying demands.
     
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    AFAIK, China buys all gold (and gold miners) they can get their hands on.

    Also that all gold that finds its way into China, never comes out again, probably forever.

    OC
     
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    It seems Jim Rickard is right, he observed that Chinese Govt. is buying and accumulating sneakily to bolster its position with USA, Russia and Germany.
     
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    China is the biggest sellers of gold jewllery, and the largest exporters of gold gold jewellery.

    It's all hyperbole.

    Australians are the largest single owners of residential homes in New York too, did know that?
     
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    Thanks for the clarification IPv6 mate :)
     
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    ipv6,

    Any links, very interesting info.

    OC
     
  18. Ipv6Ready

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    http://www.afr.com/real-estate/how-australians-cashed-in-on-brooklyns-brownstones-20150903-gjetwq

    There is an underlying dislike of Australian in Brooklyn and such as we have bought cheap during the GFC

    Chinese jewellery private demand and export. Plus a good insight why Chinese jewellery demand is one of few reason that supports gold prices into the future. Unlike any other global economic hiccups, where gold was a good indicator of world economy, I think when China goes into recession gold will go down, as the biggest buy of gold will disappear until they come out of recession.


    https://www.gold.org/download/file/3290/Chinas-gold-market-progress-and-prospects-EN.pdf
     
  19. Ipv6Ready

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    There is a Aussie fund specialist that owns 1100 homes or so last time I looked , but it easy to do privately. great returns.
     
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    So what would happens to the Gold price when the Chinese economy enter into recession or no longer in the accumulating Gold phase anymore ?
     

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