Aussies asked to take in asylum seekers, and be paid for it

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  1. Guest

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    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...d-be-paid-for-it/story-e6freuzr-1226345201172
     
  2. Yippe-Ki-Ya

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    Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that the money the government steals from me monthly through coercion is put to such great use!!
     
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    Labor doing what they know best. Throwing money at the problem.
     
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    Refugee farming, I reckon I can fit about 20 into my spare room, and you can bet that there will be plenty of that going on if the government is going to be paying people to look after them. Refugee battery farming.

    At least there will be a whole new Government department in charge of doing site visits, checking on conditions, issuing licenses etc. It will cost a bit to run the department though...
     
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    What a great idea! Julia and Wayne can put up a few asylum seekers at their homes to cover their living costs once they're thrown out of office.

    Pay taxes for the wars, pay taxes to lock up the displaced from the wars, now pay taxes on a brand new form of welfare to support those displaced people when they make their way to their would-be liberators in Australia.

    This government is insane.

    Edit: The asylum seekers would themselves be getting welfare payments on top of everything else no doubt.
     
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    I have nothing against asylum seekers, they are seeking asylum after all. It is our government who is giving them money for doing nothing, not that they can do much while they are locked up in prison.

    I am sure the asylum seekers don't want to be split up either, it is fine having a spare room for a fee paying student but could you cram a whole family into a single room?

    Incidently, the full fee paying overseas students who help fund this country's universities, where are they going to stay?
     
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    They have to go somewhere!
     
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    Not wrong, but that doesn't mean there is somewhere for them to go.
     
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    Stop talking out of your arses.

    Cost of mandatory detention: $112,000 per asylum seeker per year.

    Cost of community housing:
    Housing: $300/week x 52 weeks = $15,600 +
    Centrelink: $489.70/fortnight x 26 fortnights = $12,732.20
    Total: $28,332.20

    $112,000 -
    $28,332.20
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    $83,667.80 savings per asylum seeker per year

    $83,667.80 x (approximately) 7,000 people currently in detention centres =


    ...wait for it...







    $585,674,600

    The government just saved more than half a billion dollars a year.


    Learn how to use a bloody calculator.
     
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    if they are good lookers ill take them
     
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    Australians - at least who support this braindead government - have to be the dumbest people on this planet!

    So-called refugees could go to any country on earth to escape their supposed life-threatening conditions at home, but of course that's not what they're really interested in is it?

    First and foremost their objective is to specifically come and live in Australia (or Canada for example) where the dumbest barstads on earth vote to have their own money stolen from them in order to support every parasitic bludger from the third world who wants a free (and cushy) ride for the rest of their bluddy lives...

    makes me wanna puke!
     
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    your'e a f..n genius mate!! with such huge savings we could afford to let in another 3 billion 'refugees' from the third world!

    all they need to is just beg/borrow/steal $15000 or whatever it costs to pay the people smugglers - and Bob's their uncle - they're setup for the rest of their lives by the dumbest people on the planet! :lol:
     
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    next thing, the department will ask the supporting family to write an opinion piece on their "hosting" experience, which will become the departments official suitability assessment for that illegal immigrant (oops sorry, the "refugee").
     
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    No, with those savings we could afford to let in another 20,671 asylum seekers.

    If we're going to discuss these things in the Markets & Economies forum now that General Discussion is dead then we're going to have to learn how to do basic maths.
     
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    Basic arithmetic doesn't mean sh1t when there's a common sense vacuum :lol:
     
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    Incidently, can anyone do a rough number crunch on a one way, economy class ticket per person back to the country they came from and compare that figure with the calculated 'savings' figure above?

    I think we can save even more with this method.
     
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    The government just saved more than half a billion dollars a year. Really? or is that "the government does not have to borrow from the banks / steal from the tax payer more than half a billion dollars a year? they are still spending money they don't have, just less of it.

    Cost of saying, "I am sorry, we've checked the bank account and we can't actually afford to take in anybody with any reasonable expectation of quality" =$0, we could save a whole lot more.

    Except looking after people isn't just about doing it for less money. How much benefit is it to have someone, with no employment, poor English skills sitting in some strangers home, separated from their peer group? we would be talking about a low density solution, not every house in a street will have space for an asylum seeker so they will be spread out, will we give them mobile phones and free calls or will we expect them to live in isolation?

    And yes, it appears Markets and Economies is the new General Discussion, no one was using it anyway :p
     
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    Given that the rate of suicide attempts was something like 16 times higher for people in detention centres than amongst the general population, I really can't see how somebody would be worse off in the community than locked up in a concentration camp. In a not-wanting-to-kill-myself-with-a-broken-bottle sense that is.

    Their medical bills are about 8 times higher than ours are too because we have to keep flying doctors out to the middle of nowhere because that's where we dump the asylum seekers.

    The way we've been dealing with asylum seekers is probably about the dumbest way of handling almost every aspect of the issue except for the fact that its a fantastic way for two major political parties to manufacture something to argue about.

    And we're suckers and we can't do basic maths so we go along for the ride.
     
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    No - the DUMBEST thing we ever could do is to let them stay in the first place!

    The whole thing is a sick joke. I say let the dumbasses who want the refugees here pay for them all! and leave the rest of is the f.. out of it!
     
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    Who pays for their food, clothing, medical expenses, transport, etc. If the household that is "sponsoring" the asylum seekers has to, then $300/week is not enough, if the government has to, then the saving won't be in the half-billion dollar arena.

    :D

    :lol:
     
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