2020 Collapse

Jap cars shit on Euro cars for reliability, parts costs and in most cases performance.
They use common sense in what they make and are just a clever bunch of people.
Why our stupid government made a massive mistake picking french sub prototypes instead of those Japanese Submarines that would have had USA weapons systems integrated.
I would trust something the Japanese make over anything the bloody "I Surrender" french would and could build
 
Jason1 said:
Singapore is part of the FPDA lol
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Singapore and Malaysia are probably too small to be involved in any serious expedition, probably just can guard the small Straits of Malacca for merchant shipping. Indonesia is really the unannounced hegemonic power in the region. They have an unlimited supply of fearless young men by virtue of religion and culture, not to mention a powerful modern navy.

Technically, the whole region belongs to Indonesia and Malaysia and Singapore exists only because Indonesia allows it. At the moment, the political situation in both countries are friendly to Indonesia but if there are signs of "foreign interference", Indonesia will not allow it.
 
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sgbuyer said:
Singapore and Malaysia are probably too small to be involved in any serious expedition, probably just can guard the small Straits of Malacca for merchant shipping. Indonesia is really the unannounced hegemonic power in the region. They have an unlimited supply of fearless young men by virtue of religion and culture, not to mention a powerful modern navy.

Technically, the whole region belongs to Indonesia and Malaysia and Singapore exists only because Indonesia allows it. At the moment, the political situation in both countries are friendly to Indonesia but if there are signs of "foreign interference", Indonesia will not allow it.
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the point I was making to Alor, who was slamming the Japanese and praising China as some good guys, virtually signalling Singapore would be seen as Allies to China. lol
which im pointing out, is not true, the fact Singapore is in the FPDA might contradict what he thinks china thinks of Singapore.
they would likely see Singapore more aligned with us then they do with them.
They wont be so nice to Singapore if china was togo to war with the west.
he likely shouldnt be anti Japan Right now, they are after all allies with the US these days and Aus, and very anti Chinese. you may just find one day those in this region may need to call on the Japs to help out a bit.
Singapore would be a prime location for a Chinese Base, lets not forget that, while friendly with Singapore I doubt they would ask to turn Singapore into a base, likely do what the japs did for the same reasons,and take it and with the same sort of force and brutality.
Im pretty certain those man made Chinese islands are close enough for Chinese missiles to hit and they would placed them there for good reason.
 
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Jason1 said:
the point I was making to Alor, who was slamming the Japanese and praising China as some good guys, virtually signalling Singapore would be seen as Allies to China. lol
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Yes, I know what you're referring to, but the views in Singapore are diverse. We have all sorts of people here. More than half the people you see on the streets are foreigners, some are new foreigners. I've got a couple of neighbours from China, and some came from Malaysia, Hong Kong or Indonesia 30 years, 40 or 50 years ago. They have their own allegiance, which is not Singapore obviously.

Take a look at the location of Singapore, it's smacked right in the centre of Indonesia which is 90% muslim. This isn't American territory.

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Jason1 said:
the point I was making to Alor, who was slamming the Japanese and praising China as some good guys, virtually signalling Singapore would be seen as Allies to China. lol
which im pointing out, is not true, the fact Singapore is in the FPDA might contradict what he thinks china thinks of Singapore.
they would likely see Singapore more aligned with us then they do with them.
They wont be so nice to Singapore if china was togo to war with the west.
he likely shouldnt be anti Japan Right now, they are after all allies with the US these days and Aus, and very anti Chinese. you may just find one day those in this region may need to call on the Japs to help out a bit.
Singapore would be a prime location for a Chinese Base, lets not forget that, while friendly with Singapore I doubt they would ask to turn Singapore into a base, likely do what the japs did for the same reasons,and take it and with the same sort of force and brutality.
Im pretty certain those man made Chinese islands are close enough for Chinese missiles to hit and they would placed them there for good reason.
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you are clueless
when China confiscated Singapore tanks in HK
have a guess who actually negotiated the release of those tanks, that trained in Taiwan and was transported via HK back to Singapore
its very funny such things happened a couple of years ago
 
alor said:
you are clueless
when China confiscated Singapore tanks in HK
have a guess who actually negotiated the release of those tanks, that trained in Taiwan and was transported via HK back to Singapore
its very funny such things happened a couple of years ago
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China isn't wrong on this. Anything that goes into HK belongs to China.
 
Jason1 said:
Singapore would be a prime location for a Chinese Base, lets not forget that, while friendly with Singapore I doubt they would ask to turn Singapore into a base, likely do what the japs did for the same reasons,and take it and with the same sort of force and brutality.
Im pretty certain those man made Chinese islands are close enough for Chinese missiles to hit and they would placed them there for good reason.
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A look back at history on how the native Indonesians will react to a Chinese Base in an Indonesian region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Java
Kublai Khan, founder of the Yuan dynasty, the principal khanate of the Mongol Empire, had sent envoys to many states to ask them to put themselves under his protection and pay tribute. Men Shi or Meng-qi (孟琪), one of his ministers, was sent to Java but was not well received there.[6] The king of Singhasari, Kertanagara, was offended by Men Shi's proposal and branded his face with a hot iron as was done to common thieves, cut his ears, and scornfully sent him on his way.
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This is Kublai Khan, the ruler of the Mongol empire, Emperor of Yuan China, that laid waste to the Middle East and Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1740_Batavia_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965–66
The Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66 (Indonesian genocide,[11][2][3]:4 Indonesian Communist Purge, Indonesian politicide,[12][13] or the 1965 Tragedy) (Indonesian: Pembunuhan Massal Indonesia & Pembersihan G.30.S/PKI) were large-scale killings and civil unrest that occurred in Indonesia over several months, targeting Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) party members, Communist sympathisers, Gerwani women, ethnic Javanese Abangan,[1] ethnic Chinese and alleged leftists, often at the instigation of the armed forces and government. It began as an anti-communist purge following a controversial attempted coup d'état by the 30 September Movement. The most widely published estimates were that 500,000 to more than one million people were killed,[3]:3[4][5][6] with some more recent estimates going as high as two to three million.[14][15]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_riots_of_Indonesia
 
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there is the same master mind in such actions, only the closely effected people knew these
got the perpetrators to opened their mouths, but is too late
usually the truth come out, but just too late
it was the British that built a base in Singapore
it was Mongol Empire that tried to expand to SEA
it was the Japanese that gained control of Singapore, at that time was still Malaysia
there was no where that said China, only majority of Chinese people are in Singapore :)
 
The word Chinese can mean nationality or ethnicity. But there's actually no Chinese ethnicity. The ethnicity is Han, which is the majority race in China. In China, people often mention their race, Han, Korean, Dai. I once knew a Manchurian Chinese. When I met him for the first time, one of the first thing he said is he is Manchurian. So you can have a Korean Chinese, just like Korean American. The Yuan dynasty is Chinese even though the emperor is a Mongol, just as the Qing is Chinese.
 
@alor :D

That was a great map of "the world" :D

You can now start removing that huge Greenland, Central Europe (all of it), Southern Europe (nor Spain, nor Italy have much weight despite their size/culture/population/history/industry etc.).

For some reason Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands (or is that Holland?) have the weight of "great powers" and I don't know why that is so... so, you can leave them on the map.

Essentially, today the EU is only France & Germany + the 3 tiny "peanuts" acting like they're the "uranium" in the "EU soup": Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands.

Sweden is acting like it has the weight of Russia and Belgium believes they're the United States. Such a twist. Such an asymmetry.

The Netherlands has the mouth of the entire former communist Europe + the entire Mediterranean Europe.
 
sgbuyer said:
The word Chinese can mean nationality or ethnicity. But there's actually no Chinese ethnicity. The ethnicity is Han, which is the majority race in China. In China, people often mention their race, Han, Korean, Dai. I once knew a Manchurian Chinese. When I met him for the first time, one of the first thing he said is he is Manchurian. So you can have a Korean Chinese, just like Korean American. The Yuan dynasty is Chinese even though the emperor is a Mongol, just as the Qing is Chinese.
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there are many ethnicity in China, same as Indonesia, there are big group like malay n java but there are many more others
so when there is injustice, there sometimes have internal fighting, only people there would know, outsiders don't get to hear the news
supporting Japan as an aggressor against China for the pacifist, only the fascist would do such a thing and to be presented as the do gooder... when you fight on the other side, there is no way to be deceived. that is the reality
 
TreasureHunter said:
@alor :D

That was a great map of "the world" :D

You can now start removing that huge Greenland, Central Europe (all of it), Southern Europe (nor Spain, nor Italy have much weight despite their size/culture/population/history/industry etc.).

For some reason Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands (or is that Holland?) have the weight of "great powers" and I don't know why that is so... so, you can leave them on the map.

Essentially, today the EU is only France & Germany + the 3 tiny "peanuts" acting like they're the "uranium" in the "EU soup": Belgium, Sweden and the Netherlands.

Sweden is acting like it has the weight of Russia and Belgium believes they're the United States. Such a twist. Such an asymmetry.

The Netherlands has the mouth of the entire former communist Europe + the entire Mediterranean Europe.
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Putin had answered on that map back in 2018, last part :cool:
 
Does communism still exists? There's no such thing as absence of social class in today's society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a philosophical, social, political, economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money[3][4] and the state.[5][6]
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How about Facism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4]/quote]
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American hegemonic power is waning. We all agree on this. The world is progressing to a new world order. Just as in the final days of the Han Dynasty (if you consider the world itself as a vestige of American hegemony), multiple regional powers will emerge. We're transiting to a multipolar world. No single superpower. Only many regional powers. The major powers are already in the making, Russia, Turkey, Germany, Indonesia, Mexico, Japan.

The US and China are only one of the regional powers. While they are the biggest powers at the moment, as they compete with each other, hoping to be the sole global hegemonic power (for the case of the US, to retain the hegemony), the other regional powers are reaping rewards if both sides manage to weaken each other. Just as Russia will gain if there's a cold war between the US and China, as did China during the Soviet cold war.
 
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these are just labels, they can keep the name like CPC but practice Capitalist
the other claims to be Capitalist but practice fascist and denying that to the bitter end
they can say one thing and do many others things, "for every man be found a liar" the statement is still true since it was first spoken
the only thing that can clean oil is oil (one end oil, the other end we call it soap)
the double speaks like in 1984

The term "fascist" has been used as a pejorative,[66] regarding varying movements across the far right of the political spectrum.[67] George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'".[67]

they try to hang their label on the other party every time, they would accuse others of what they themselves do
its just political maneuvering to keep us all blur and lost :)

left vs right
both hands are attached to the same body, its all in the mind

but if you get the idea about individual freedom at the top and down to the bottom where the state have all the power
our situation of individual vs the state is constantly changing up and down

and you will have the answer of that two sides are actually at the same place
 
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