"Wide Reed" SBSS Slave Queen?

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  1. SpacePete

    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I thought all 2013 Slave Queens were "wide reed" but I sometimes see them advertised as "limited". Is there really anything exclusive about these wide reed slave queens? Are there any from the same year that weren't wide reed?
     
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    Do you mean the difference between a short rim and a long rim?
     
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    I have both wide reed and narrow reed Slave Queens - even coming from the same source in the same batch. Not sure of the mintage split between the two.
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I'm not sure. I just see some advertised as wide reed with different spacing. I'm confused by all the different SBSS rounds and am trying to sort out the different ones I have.

    Here a pic from SDBUllion:
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    We bought in a whole heap when first released, there was a mix of both.
     
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    wide reed to start but they quickly changed during the first run, no idea on numbers.
    Was in the timeframe they were attempting to be a self sufficient mint, buying new equipment to make blanks and such.

    There is also a difference In the surface finish when you compare early to late runs. result of them using a burnishing machine midway through.
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    That's interesting on the change in machinery. Is the surface change very noticeable?
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I still can't work out all the obfuscating bullshit around these coins.

    I still have no idea WTF is the deal with the wide reed version of the Slave Queen. Some dealers make them out to be super exclusive, but they sell for maybe $40. For example:

    "This rare round is from Chris Duane's private collection, and was only produced with the wide reed for one week!"

    Wow, it's a rare round from Chris Duane's private collection! Produced for only one week!!!

    eBay sellers take it to the next level. It's now apparently an industry high-water mark for silver craft:
    Jeeeeeeebus!
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I've never even seen a non-wide version of the standard BU Slave Queen. I have a bunch I had picked up from various places and they are all wide reed:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Slave queen narrow reed

    [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/10425_rps20150809_102236_985.jpg][​IMG][/imgz]
     
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    Wow, super rare!
     
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    monopolize Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Haha I'm pretty sure yours is the rare type.
     
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    sorry missed this.
    Yes it's noticeable, late runs were far better quality, just about flawless actually. My suspicion is they were buying second rate blanks to cut costs initially, then when they became self sufficient they produced and purchased first rate blanks. They didn't have a burnishing machine from the get go.

    wide reed would be the smaller mintage but they're not rare. Probably 30k versus 60k would be my guess given the time the machinery was changed. Freedom girl (165k) and slave queen (88k) had pretty incredible mintage numbers (for a tiny new mint).
     
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    Wide reed looks better to me! I have a mix of wide and narrow reed,cant remember which types are which re designs but I thought the wide reed were first release as all my wide reed have the earlier dates.

    I have given up buying them,I just dont think down the road they will be worth the premium being asked.
     
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    I always thought the narrow Reed was the rare one.. Like trivum narrow Reed is rare type.. At least that's what I thought..
     
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    Maybe we mainly got the wide reed in Australia?
     
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    I would say we did! I've seen bugger all of the narrow ones.. Wouldn't mind a trivum and slave queen narrow Reed to fill in gaps.. If anyone is holding feel free to hit me up..
    :)
     
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    The Mulligan Mint looked after key international dealers from the get go, at the time it looked like a smart plan... until they ran into production issues and couldn't service local demand.
    I know there were a couple well known dealers in Australia that managed to secure large orders early in production and even through the turmoil the mint went through - that's why the wide reem seems so common here.
     

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