White spots on slabbed pandas

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  1. jc888888888

    jc888888888 New Member Silver Stacker

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    I know of 6 ms 70 and ms 69 2010 panda,s that where ncs, and have been sent to NGC on the guarantee with milkspots,
    I stand by my statement my good friend ,any one who thinks NCS conservation will stop a coin from developing milkspots is misguided
    I would invite anyone to call NCS tell them you need technical advise ,and simply ask this question...."if I send you a coin that has no visible milk spots, does conservation of that coin prevent or lessen the likelihood that it will ever develop milkspots in the future" their answer will be " no it will not sir" and they will go on to site the reasons stated above, I have made that phone call and know of 5 other folks who have made the same call, the number is on the website:) dont get me wrong I love NCS service I have coins sitting there right now, but this whole myth of NCS preventing milkspots from forming on a coin is just that a myth propagated on coin boards............
     
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    jc888888888 New Member Silver Stacker

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    the little silica bags you see in lots of coin boxes from china help remove humidity ,they make dehumidifying products for gun safes etc ,that cant hurt............
     
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    I agree with what most of JC888888 said , I have not sent any new er pandas to ncs but the older ones I have sent with spots came back with slightly less visible spots but they are still there . I have also noticed 2 different kind of white spots on the pandas one that seems to originate from a small pinpoint looking thing spreading outward and others that are more like blotches I dont know if it is the same thing causing it but they seem different. I have also noticed rarely copper or iron spots on the silver pandas , it looks more like iron to me , I always imagined maybe there was some rust on one of the dies or a barrel they used for oil/lubercant that just got stamped into the coin but I am probably wrong . Back in the
    90s and early 2000s when silver was $3-$5 an ounce I doubt they really even considered quality and numismatic value as being a big issue it was just cheap silver bullion , but again I could be very wrong.

    I have also noticed the last few years white spots seem to be more prevelent on many different silver coins from different mints and I am not sure why that would be unless there is a newer product that is being used somewhere along the line from the refining process to the actual minting process . I would like to get some scientific data on this but I would imagine it would take someone with some very sophisticated equipment and extra time on there hands.
     
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    Like this?

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    jc888888888 New Member Silver Stacker

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    Silverstar1 is absolutely correct i have seen 2 types also, the pinpoint ,like in this photo ,and the blotchy that look almost like they where painted on ,I honestly dont know the difference between the 2, I am not trying to be a "know it all" on this subject:)I just hate to see someone coming on this board with bullion panda,s like 2011,s, being told that if you spend more than 25% of the value of the coin extra you will not have a problem................ Yennus has the right approach! save your money , and buy more coins !! the percentage of milk spotted 2011 panda,s is minuscule to the total population( who knows but probably 1 or 2%) so if you buy 10 2011 panda,s and one develop,s milkspots BUY 3 MORE ,with the money you saved not conserving the coins and put the 1 poor bear in the bullion pile . You got a $ 1500 2000 mirror and it makes you sleep better at night having it conserved THEN BY ALL MEANS, go for it. :) My personal rule , anything worth more than 300 usd that is silver even if I dont believe it needs conservation ,I most probably do it ,Gold coins , my opinion is gold is more stable ,so I raise my value guidelines as far as conservation goes on gold a little bit.thanks,just my thoughts
     
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    Thanks for the info , I was wondering about NCS on gold pandas , I have not bothered with it on the gold and they have come back with good grades 69s mostly. I wouldnt think it could remove the copper spots on gold either but I would like to hear if someone has had them removed by NSC. I did have and odd purpleish color spot on one but it graded 69 , I was wondering if ncs could remove it , has anyone else seen a purple spot on a gold coin?
     
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    I sent to ncs a fractional panda gold with a green spot in omp and in the coin. The ncs remove it and became ms68
     
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    jc888888888 New Member Silver Stacker

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    copper spots and stains they are very successful with, never had a purple one yet:)
     
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    An excellent post!
     

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