I have been reserving on a 2009 kilo panda for $3200 (with box and COA) for awhile and payment times coming. While it's tough to swallow paying a kilo coin for $100/ozwhen silver is at $40 oz, this coin seem a lot to have going for it 4000 mintage Proof finish Comes with box/COA to help minimize the chance of counterfeit Practically impossible to get in any online shop unless you are willing to pay $150-$250/oz (and they all have been sold for a while) Also it seems that Pandas that come in Kilo sizes have a greater demand on it's own just for being that big! Good example are the 5 and 12 oz Pandas. Wonder what your thoughts are? I consider myself pretty knowledgable in most modern numismatic coins (1990-present kooks, all Lunar years, grizz and wolves, boxed Perth sets, britannias, kangas,etc) but learning the ropes of the Panda market.