Tanzanian gold miners - watch out

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    Tanzania minister wants established gold miners to pay 30% tax - no excuses

    Gold miners who have been operating for five years or more should pay 30% corporate tax regardless of losses or shut down and leave the country, says Tanzania's energy and mines minister.

    Author: Fumbuka Ng'wanakilala
    Posted: Sunday , 29 Jul 2012

    DODOMA (Reuters) -

    Tanzania, Africa's fourth largest gold producer, has told mining companies operating for more than five years to start paying a corporate tax of 30 percent, citing rising prices of precious metals at the world market.

    Tanzania's gold export earnings rose 31 percent last year to $1.879 billion from $1.436 billion a year before on higher world prices for the commodity, Sospeter Muhongo, energy and minerals minister, told parliament on Friday.

    The minister said the government wants to earn higher revenues from mining companies due to the rising gold price and added the government had ordered audits of all large-scale gold mines in the country to ensure they started paying corporate taxes after recovering their costs of production.

    "I am instructing all mining companies that have been in operation for more than five years to start paying corporate tax without any excuses," he said.

    "If they claim they are still making losses and can't contribute to the national economy through taxes, they should shut down their mines and leave because minerals do not rot."

    Major gold mining companies in Tanzania include African Barrick Gold Plc, which has four gold-producing mines, AngloGold Ashanti Ltd and Resolute Mining Ltd.

    He did not say which of these mines were affected, but said Geita Gold Mine owned by AngloGold Ashanti and the Golden Pride mine owned by Resolute had already paid a total of 228.5 billion shillings in corporate taxes.

    He said Tanzania was also evaluating 11 bids from investors for a stake in the state-run Buhemba gold mine. The government regained ownership of the mine this year after reversing its 2005 privatisation to a local company amid allegations of graft in the previous sale of the mine.

    It is much smaller than mines run by the big companies.

    The country has also invited bids for a joint venture project to develop a state-run coal mine with 35.5 million tonnes of reserves, the country's energy and minerals minister said Friday.

    The government said the project would also involve construction of a 200-megawatt coal-fired power plant at a cost of $400 million.

    "By June 2012, the State Mining Corp received bids from 16 foreign and local companies to enter into joint venture to develop this project," Muhongo said.

    He said Tanzania has 136.5 million pounds of uranium oxide, with Australia-based miner Mantra Resources given a go-ahead to build a $450 uranium mine at a world heritage park after the project received approval from UNESCO, the U.N. cultural agency.
     
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    finicky Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    " ... or shut down and leave" the developed project to politicians' cronies

    Lesson 1/ Avoid any exposure to politicians with 'bongo' in their name.

    Lesson 2/ Avoid anything connected to Jakarta. They appear to have stolen Intrepid's (IAU) project after $100m of investment
     
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    I stay away from Africa because there is too much Muslim influence - ie totalitarian marxism type ideology
     
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    Don't you guys realise that the gold in the ground belongs to the people of the country not the people who take the risks, invest, do the work and try to actually get the stuff out of the ground into a useable form?
     
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    You are Julia Gillard and i claim my Five Pounds.
     
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    Question: What is the tax payable on a loss?
     
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    Hmmmm... this thread stopped dead in it's tracks. :/

    Seems I'm not the only one who can't figure the answer to this question?

    Sometimes it's too easy to listen only to what you want to hear?
     
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    Tanzania is in Africa, land of the incredible so no surprise registers.
     
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    how dare they?

    if a company is digging out tanzanian minerals and sending overseas, and due to their labour costs, management bonuses, entertainment expenses, if they make a minor loss each year, they shouldn't have to pay a dime to the government. And after 10 years, when every single ounce of the precious mineral has been shipped overseas, if they haven't paid any tax to the tanzanian government, that's not their problem. Sure, they would have loved to pay tax, but operating at a loss for 10 years, it just wasn't possible. Sorry guys.

    Meanwhile, Tanzania is left with a hole in the ground and nothing to show for it, except some foreign mine owners who had their snout in the trough for 10 years, living high on the hog.

    I support the Tanzanian government. Pay up $$ or piss off, because these minerals won't rot.
     
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    Jim Sinclair's gold mine is in Tanzania, but his philosophy from the outset has been to work in partnership with the government and share the rewards.
     
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    Jim Sinclair published a response to a reader's email on this subject on his blog today. He is a man of utmost integrity.

     

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