Son dies from cocaine, so mother wants bitcoin transactions outlawed

Whilst I agree it's blaming the messenger I wouldn't underestimate a parent that has lost their only child and the power of social media.

 

Just ban the internet altogether

 

Who or what to blame?.

Individual choice?.
Societal values and peer pressure?.
The human inclination to experiment and have risk behaviours?.
The manufacturer of the drug?.
The plant the drug came from?.
The dealer of the drug?.
The internet as a means of communication?.
The currency used to buy the drug?. (The American dollar leads the way globally)
A lack of good parenting?.
A lack of education?.

Drug abuse did not start and won't end with any particular currency go in or out of existence.
I've seen my fare share of rolled up AUD $50s and the stuff flowing through them was purchased with more of those AUD $50s.
I remember seeing cigarettes and marijuana in school at the age of around 10 years old.


Source: http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/sites/...and meth induced deaths in Australia 2008.pdf

 

It's horribly tragic for the parents. But as we don't own the kids, and they have free will, tragedies happen. Maybe blame the parents if the victim is a minor, but ....

I've nearly been that kid and it is always of your own doing. My little boy is 30, so hopefully he is past that temptation.

As adults, the best we can do is lead by example.

 

Education and legalisation.

 

He was a 21 year old adult and made a bad adult decision, lots of adults do. Sounds like the Mother failed to notice any signs prior to his death and now fails to understand why he died. Her plea to ban Bitcoin is as ridiculous as banning cash would be.

Facebook gathers and sends information to advertising companies and Government agencies. If she wanted to point the finger I would ask why her son was able to make drug connections via Facebook and discuss illicit drug use on Facebook without raising alarm bells. The article says he discussed with friends on Facebook on how to pool their money and which sites to go to buy drugs. If Bitcoin was not around he would have still used a different site and still discussed on Facebook where to buy, maybe he would have posted Cash to someones PO box instead.

There is no one to really blame other than the prick that cut down the cocaine with Levamisole. But if you really had to point a finger I would say Facebook and Australia Post have failed their duty of care.

 

1 YOU CAN'T OD on cocaine , worst you can do is to have a heart-attack & loose all your teeth if you use it correctly
Or burn your nostrils out if you consume it the wrong way
2 Just because somebody say's it cocaine doesn't make it so
We don't get real cocaine in this country

I bet if & when they analyse the white powder found next to him , it wan't be cocaine

More BS political correctness

 

Off thread topic, :lol: I'm not in postion to disagree with your statement.

I would suggest that variant qualities are perhaps available to variant peer circles within our society.

 

I do come from the local live entertainment industry
Constantly kept hearing it :/

 

I don't follow much in terms of Bitcoin but read this in the paper and thought: "Typical"

 

we are very close to that

 

How close and on what grounds have you concluded the internet will be banned?

 

https://www.change.org/en-AU/petiti...iry-into-bitcoin-it-s-protecting-drug-dealers

I Imagine she is referring to what 'bitcoin wallet' Cryptospend, sent the funds directly to. I think she is implying that if it can be found that the wallet Cryptospend sent the funds to directly, is linked to the supplier of the illicit substance, there would be a case to answer for the bitcoin currency retailer. I wonder if anyone with a legal background could point to a legal precedent for this kind of accusation being tried in a court of law for other payment methods, like cash.

 

Yeah right.
Don't know on which planet you live mate.

 

From what I can see, Cryptospend is an "assisted purchase" service like those sites that will order things for you from U.S. stores that don't ship to Australia.

You send Cryptospend your BTC and details of your order, they order from the store and pay cash, the store sends you the stuff.

I don't have a legal background, but I'm pretty sure buying coke for somebody else isn't legal.

 

Did cryptospend have prior knowledge to the particular details of this transaction?

More to the point, can they? If drug dealers can create new addresses for each transaction?

Rhetorical question....

 

Well, if you go to the Cryptospend site it looks just like every other assisted purchase service i.e. "Tell us the URL of the the item you'd like to buy".

Buying stuff on other people's behalf is what they do.

I have no idea if the dealer was trying to use Cryptospend as a cut-out to disguise the transaction at their end or simply get cash in an Australian bank account quickly (maybe their supplier doesn't take BTC and they need AUD), but based on what the service is supposed to do I can't see how Cryptospend didn't know what the payment was for.

 

I've grown a strong dislike towards change.org as there is no means available to openly discuss the issue with those 'petitioning' this cause (ignoring the spam mail I've got from that service since re one on the NBN that has been wasted in the end).

On this particular issue.
It doesn't matter if it's: gold, silver, bitcoin or the Aussie dollar (let alone the USD... ), the only thing that is responsible for this death is ultimately the adult (over 18, lets call it what it is) dumb enough to partake in drugs and granted a Darwin Award for his trouble.

I make no apologies for the harshness of this post; if anything send all complaints to the US Federal Reserve and ask them why we need technology like Bitcoin in the first place.

 

From Cryptospend front page:

Doesn't sound like a basic bitcoin seller