Precious Metals to Tank?

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  1. mmm....shiney!

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    Why the distinction between "paper" and "physical" precious metals when discussing price? Premiums aside for physical they're both trading the same price trends, if spot price for GLD falls 50% then spot price for a 1oz blob will also fall 50%.

    Deleveraging assets.
     
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    I think he predicts good times are coming.People buy gold preparing for bad times.
     
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    Don’t believe this photo is from the actual Highway of death as note the lack of explosive damage and burnt up cars. This photo is the result of the Highway being cleared of abandoned vehicles by bulldozers.
     
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    They have a bloody big hole to climb outta and faith in America fiat is at one of if not the lowest in history, while it's still the most widely used and accepted it's on a decline and the biggest and fastest push away from USD is happening right now...it will still take time but rate it is is surprising. Deleverage all they want there's no way in hell that gold will drop 50% yet alone more then that, it will do what it's always done some dips and then a slow but steady rise long term
     
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    Gold is tied directly to the fiat flopping and not so much to other assets since its just real money and its also very undervalued compared to other assets.

    Everything the counterfeiters are doing is bullish so while the markets might tank 50% it doesnt mean gold would drop.
    Its held up awesome the last few years against everything thrown at it.

    Gold is still the reigning champ.
     
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    During most of the recessions since 1973 gold has had an inverse relationship with the S+P. The more the S+P tanks then generally the more gold will rise. I wouldn't say it is undervalued compared to other assets, but that doesn't mean it can't go on a run, it just depends upon how big the downturn in the share market will be as to whether we'll see a massive amount of deleveraging or not and if so how high it drives the USD.

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    UUP v gold spot price (recessions in pink)

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    Look at ebay mate no change to lunar or kook prices... that said you already need to have an 'aged' and sizeable stack for that to matter
     
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    Premiums account for the difference and liquidity is impacted by the difference between spot and what you can sell for.
     
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    Try offloading any substantial amount of physical in a short time frame and it'll be spot + whatever small premium you can grab that will be upmost in your mind.

    There's a reason why liquid markets attract so much interest and why physical metals will remain a niche market.
     
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    I am conflicted about the spot prices. The physical rising high fast sharply might mean I could possibly sell to get fiat profit. But then what? I would need the price to drop substantially to buy again.
    Better slowly rising prices.. which means we can continue to enjoy collecting cool coins and trading as collectors while having an insurance that we do not need to cash in on.
    Sharp huge increases in gold prices might mean a horrible situation we live in, according to some gold experts.
    I hope I am making some sense.
     
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    Certainly does make sense. Premiums matter to collectors.
     

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