Perth Mint 50oz silver bar questions

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    Hi everyone,

    I seem to have trouble finding accurate information regarding the Perth Mint 50oz silver bars. If anyone can assist I would be very appreciative. I am trying to find one of these as a gift for a friend who has just started to collect coins and bars. So far I have been a bit unlucky in my search but I was hoping to get some background information on it.

    Do they attract a premium over spot? If so how much approximately?

    Do the Perth Mint 50oz silver bars all look the same or are there different types?

    Do they all have serial numbers or only some of them?

    When did the Perth Mint stop manufacturing them?

    Lastly, are they actually considered a collectors item or just bullion?

    Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help!
     
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    Do they attract a premium over spot? If so how much approximately?
    Yes, depend on varieties, $100-300

    Do the Perth Mint 50oz silver bars all look the same or are there different types?
    For your info, Approx. 6 types - 3 of I have seen

    Do they all have serial numbers or only some of them?
    Some

    When did the Perth Mint stop manufacturing them?
    Circa 90

    Are they actually considered a collectors item or just bullion?
    Both
     
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    Thanks for your reply Golden ChipMunk, you gave me the exact information I needed.
     
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    Some Varieties 50 oz Perth Mint

    50 oz Swirly Variety Type F - No Serials

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    [source: Chips Collection]

    Type F- No Serial

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    Source: GoldStacker


    Type C -Odds weight , Serials

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    Source: Bazil

    Type C - Under weight, Serials
     
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    Nice bars. Do even weight, serial bars exist in the 50oz range?
     
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    Yes.

    Odd weight with serials are the one you want to collect. FYI not many around.


    I think type D1 are the rarest, only stumble on once. Didn't have the opportunity to get it. :(

    Let me know, may have some up for sale. :D
    Offer that I cant resist :)
     
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    I might be about to buy the BEST LOOKING 50OZ PERTH MINT BAR EVER MADE! pictures to follow shortly. The swirls, the swirls!
     
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    ChipMunk what do you mean by D1?
     
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    my phone does it no justice, it looks like someone dropped a pebble in the middle of a silver lake. I'll have to get my camera out to take some shots of my new sovereigns anyway, I'll take some real pics then.

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    Source: phrenzy-lou pictures
     
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    Why are the swirls so popular?
     
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    I guess because it is Unique, have Distinctive Swirls- ( Looks like thumb prints )
    Not all are alike
    Harder to forge, due to the swirls.( drilled and patched ).
    Easier to recognise.
    The word SWIRLS say it all... ;)
     
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    Your getting something as good looking as a coin, at near bullion prices, with a major difference: each one is absolutely unique. If they created a cooling swirl pattern coin I think it would look good and sell well but even the most attractive coins look (unless they've gone badly wrong) like it's, usually thousands of, brothers and sisters. I am the only person with this unique piece of Perth mint artwork.

    I have a 1kg 1994 proof kook mintage: 1000
    I have a few 1kg 2009 gemstone lunar ox mintage: 346
    I have one Perth mint 50oz swirl bar: mintage in this exact edition: 1
     
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    Correct. :D
    Every single piece is absolutely distinctive
     
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    How about this one!

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    The photo doesn't do justice to the swirls. These days quality control wouldn't allow the dodgy weight and fineness stamp.
     
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    ^^^

    Does it have serial?
     
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    I am not sure. I don't think so but I can't check for a few days. Would a serial number make it more collectable?
     

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