Paper PMs(eft's)

Discussion in 'General Precious Metals Discussion' started by Peter, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member

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    Difficult analysis of why some paper could be dangerous in a crash
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    "an attempt to understand the relatively new but wildly popular Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs), Dr. Bogan did extensive research into the structures used by ETF operators, with a special focus on the potential risks that might arise should they be faced with large and sudden liquidations. Given that there are about 2,000 ETFs in existence, with assets totaling over $1 trillion, we thought it appropriate to find out what Dr. Bogan has learned in his research."

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    "G: In the case of the Flash Crash, your research paper pointed out that even though ETFs represent only 11% of the listedsecurities in the U.S., 70% of the canceled trades during the Flash Crash involved ETFs. Is there an explanation for that?

    AB: Some clarity is starting to emerge from work done by the SEC and others. But from our perspective, those statistics are quite alarming. There's no good reason 70% of canceled trades would be in ETFs while only 11% of listed securities are ETFs. And even though ETFs trade more actively, they don't represent 70% of all trading volume. So any way you look at it, they were badly overrepresented among the canceled trades, i.e., overrepresented among the most extremely off-priced trades.

    From the perspective of financial theory, that makes absolutely no sense. ETFs are meant to be index-fund trackers. They're meant to represent a whole basket of shares, and yet these very securities that are meant to be diversified actually fell more than their underlying stocks during the Flash Crash, more often and more deeply.

    That's quite worrisome; it tells you that in a crisis environment ETFs don't behave the way financial logic suggests they ought to, which suggests to me that the theory is incomplete. People haven't really looked closely enough at what the unintended consequences of ETF issuance and redemption mechanics are, and what the realities are in stressful market conditions."

    http://www.kitco.com/ind/Galland/apr072011.html


    My note
    This applies to Electronically traded funds(eft's)
    Not all paper.
    And not specifically PMs,they might act differently within EFTs.
     
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    bron suchecki Active Member Silver Stacker

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    That guy's name is hillarious, and he doesn't even know it. Bogan Associates LLC, great company name.

    The report is more about stock ETFs and the problems of replicating stock index moves. I think the report says the PM ETFs have a very low shorting level.
     

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