Oh dear!!

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  1. somethingsilverrelated

    somethingsilverrelated Member Silver Stacker

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    Whats the bet its a copy, much like the 'bulk' penny lots you see with a 1930 just poking through in the middle of the frame. Or it could be someones lucky day...
     
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    somethingsilverrelated Member Silver Stacker

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    Yeah my first thought was "bullshit!". But the more I look at it....
    Would like to see pics of the Florin, particularly the 1914!

    Always a bit of a risk these bulk lots though.
     
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    The back story means the seller could be charged with larceny through finding.
     
  5. SydneySilver

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    Also no selling history, and has only been an ebay member for a couple of weeks...
     
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    somethingsilverrelated Member Silver Stacker

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    ...this is quite interesting
     
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    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Would that apply? If the stool had a bunch of sheet music and other items in the compartment it was presumably sold "as is" as a complete set of stool and contents, wouldn't the sale transfer ownership of the entire package?
     
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    If that florin a genuine that is worth a lot, in awe of the condition
     
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    Does anyone have a clue as to what that proof (?) coin underneath the florin is?
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    yeh I call bs. its clearly eBay trap
    it has back story "I found this and don't know how to use google"
    low res pics
    low feedback new seller
    and lets not forget the "old" tobacco tin that all new great hoards get found in
    if your willing to bid on this I have the deed to the Sydney Harbour Bridge that I could let go for cheap. Found it in a old bible that I inherited from my great uncle John Bradfield
     
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    Has anyone thought to ask the seller a few honest questions re the contents of the tin?

    He might be telling the truth...can you say INVESTIGATION? :)

    Personally,I could not be bothered chasing rainbows..
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    you don't need to ask the scammer if he is trying to scam you . simply look at the evidence.
    besides the circumstantial evidence that I have already stated then look at the item he is trying to sell.
    you have a rusted out tobacco box that has the patina of being over 30 years old. within this tin you have an assortment of valuable coins in 2x2s and sleeves.
    these 2x2's have no signs of wear on the tabs, the 1st place to get damage when handled and/or stored in a box.
    the plastic sleeve that the florin is in looks almost new with no signs of yellowing or cloudiness.
    the silver papal medallion has not reacted at all with the tin. my experience has taught me coins in tobacco tins go bad, quick, as they react with the metal the tin is made of.

    so to accept this seller is not a scam artist you would have to accept that someone knew enough about collecting to recently put the valuable coins in good storage media but then didn't think enough about the coins to store them in anything other than a crappy rusty old tobacco tin
    which turns out was a great move because it ensured that the coins have kept in better condition than other collections I have found in files loaded with the proper 2x2 sheets less than 10 years old.

    that was my investigation, I don't trust any one I don't know on ebay so why bother asking him?
     
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    I want to know who uses efpos at the salvos :rolleyes:

    then sticks the cash in the bank :mad:
     
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    "I bought a piano stool from a Daylesford opshop for my girl the other week and found this lock box inside under a bunch of sheet music!!:) There was over 1k in cash (keeping that:)) haha... and this random box of coins. "
    This auction appears more like a diary than a sale.
    Too much irrelevant details make me hear the scam bell.
     
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    Email him for some photos, ask him can I inspect the items or more photos.
    This is the reply: "Hey mate, I'm not comfortable doing that. I've heard that ebay gets pretty pissed if they find out!! Also, no offence man but I don't know you so probably wouldn't be keen on having you at my place! I've had a few people offer to buy and so far the highest offer is $700. I'm thinking about taking this offer but like I said I don't want to mess with ebay so will probably just see where the auction ends up. Its kinda fun anyway:p

    Cheers, Pete."
    :) Bet it will be a bidding war later on lol
     
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    I think it's gonna be a bahbourbon
     
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    If the donator of the goods to the shop, and the shop when selling the item, did not know there was $1000 in the stool, then yes, this can apply.

    Smells scammy. I reckon the buyer would end up with an alibaba special.
     
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    ...aaaannnd the current bid is over $350.

    I do feel sorry for whoever wins this when they find out it's a fake
     
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    one out of the tin
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    NGC graded
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