New Political Party - Expression of interest

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  1. fiatphoney

    fiatphoney New Member

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    The Free Peoples Party - FPP

    What's the cut-off date to register for the senate?

    We need five hundred members, and you can't use members that someone else already has.

    Seeking representatives in every electorate: no criminal record.

    Policy -
    Abolish Reserve Bank
    Abolish all govt. guarantees to any and all in the private sector ie. Banks...
    We support a Royal Commission for the banks, but seek to have it broadened to include the entire financial services sector - everything from payday loans to derivative instruments and their regulation or disallowment.

    Principle of citizens first test, shall be enshrined in law, to stop acts of treason against ordinary citizens such as Covered Bonds degrading the protection of deposit holding savers.

    Individuals pay no tax, ever - Federal.
    Corporations, Trusts etc pay tax as a percentage of revenue (Very GST like, except imposed on corporations instead of citizens), and a percentage of debt they hold to negate any inflationary benefit they may receive through Govt expenditure related inflation. ie NO DEDUCTIONS, NO international scam transfer deductions, No free ride through financial repression of savers, etc.

    ATO downsized.

    Centrelink abolished.

    Welfare disbanded in favour of the first $15,000 wage paid by the govt to any sole trader enterprise, with an additional amount per child/student under 18yo. A fair minimum hourly rate remains, as does all shift allowances and penalties. A minimum of 38hrs per week to be worked before stay at home parent can directly receive $15,000 payment paid through the aforementioned employer at govt's expense.
    Furthermore support for all mums to participate in this wage by way of free Child Care placement in 'average' suburbs where housing is deemed 'affordable'. Ie no free ride for affluent suburbs and executive style homes.
    Appropriate volunteering opportunities for said minimum income will be made available for all others, relative to age and ability. Fostering a sense of community enrichment and participation, not welfare.

    Treasury prints money to a maximum percentage of GDP to cover loss of individual tax revenue.
    GST is abolished. Recommendation that States implement a Land Value Tax on affluent and disproportionate amenity enjoying suburbs, executive style homes, foreign owned property, corporate owned property, idle land banking property and vacant dwellings.

    Royal Commission investigating immigration in relation to effect on citizens standards of living and effect on employment conditions. Citizens first test is to be determined and applied to all future immigration policies. Extended probation periods for new immigrants. Evidence of building of a nation within our nation, especially in regards to terrorism, or a State controlled enterprise of a foreign nation within or borders, can result in forfeiture of citizenship and immediate deportation and/or corporate expulsion.

    A new Federal Corruption agency, holding politicians, judges, public servants, directors of corporations, corporate financial officers etc. criminally responsible with mandatory jail sentences, and seizure of assets 'behind the veil'.

    Various drugs made legal for those over the age of 25 years upon successful completion of 'Health and Lifestyle' license added to Medicare card. Supply of said drug to those under-age will be dealt with severely and go through a process ultimately leading to mandatory jail terms. The govt in no way condones the use of drugs in this action, yet seeks to provide for 'less bad' outcomes for the overall benefit to the community, such as removing profit from organised crime and corrupt officials. Ofcourse intoxication and disturbing the peace laws will have full effect.

    Acknowledgement that blockchain technologies will make present financial intermediaries largely obsolete. New Treasury department heads the initiation and implementation of p2p blockchain technology through the newly created, The People's Bank of Australia, whereby dividends are paid directly to Treasury. Subject to legal advice, non-transferable shares will be given to everyone in the nation, surrendered at death and issued at citizenship, and will not be Govt owned nor Govt guaranteed. It will be a p2p network, maintained by the Treasury for the fee of said dividend. It will be possible that shareholders could vote through transparent blockchain technology. Such new voting mechanisms can ensure the integrity of elections, and even the engagement of high level public servants and judges, so as to truly reflect societies values - as opposed to the agenda of presstitutes within the media, special interest groups and the overbearing and intrusive nanny-state. Interest rate mechanism to be determined, that takes into account wealth transfer from individuals with greater borrowing capacity.

    The state shall respect the right of citizens to personal privacy. Terrorism shall not be used as a blanket cover-all to intrude upon generations of law abiding citizens which have made this country great.

    Any policy that on balance provides for a better standard of living for citizens shall be duly considered.

    This Party is to be free from career politicians with the principle that serving beyond two terms mandates a third term, in jail. No member's spouse may run for election where a total of two terms collectively would have been completed.
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    How about joining with the LDP?

    A lot of similar ground between this proposed party, and the LDP.

    http://ldp.org.au/
     
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    fiatphoney New Member

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    Nope because -
    "Retail, hospitality and tourism businesses across Australia will receive a huge shot in the arm if penalty rates on weekends are removed.LDP FF
    So says Senator David Leyonhjelm of the Liberal Democrats who will introduce a Bill next week to do just that, co-sponsored by Senator Bob Day of Family First."
    http://ldp.org.au/leyonhjelmday-to-introduce-bill-to-remove-penalty-rates/

    My position is that small business (sole traders) can receive a massive boost through less compliance cost and misplaced time and energy, and support through an underlying national basic payment - 'Welfare disbanded in favour of the first $15,000 wage paid by the govt to any sole trader enterprise'. The benefit of a more efficient government and reduced compliance is passed to citizens. Rather than simply forever pitting those with economic power against those without. This is a massive difference.
    Why not foster personal innovation vs squabbling like seagulls over a chip. Also we level the playing field against six foot seagulls, creating wealth not fighting over the scraps.

    Imagine how much time is saved by small business at the Federal level where sole traders not having to keep financial records for their personal income as is not taxed anyway. With today's liability insurance, such 'financial protection' matters that concerns sole traders can be provided for.
     
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    There should be no Land Tax. There should be no rates.
    A mans home is his castle. If he loses his job then he can at least live somewhere and not be forcibly removed due to an unjust tax.
    Make G.S.T. payable on all house/land sales. This is exclusively for paying the rates of all councils.
     
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    In principle I agree, as I have stated in the past that LVT seems a bit like socialism to me. HOWEVER note that there are only certain categories of property that should receive LVT treatment, tending towards more efficient uses of said land. Ie holding costs discourage certain speculative or non productive holdings, which releases property for economic use.

    Therefore the principle you state is upheld, for the vast majority of dwelings in Australia. NO LVT tax opportunities for the overwhealming majority of Australians.

    Remember that no income tax is a massive step on the road to individual freedom.

    There is no GST.

    Rates for councils are what they are at this point in time.
     
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    Is that $15 000 per employee?

    If so, you know what I'd do? Instead of employing one person for $45 000/year I'd employ 3 and get away with not having to pay out any of my own money in wages.

    Also, if you're in favour of retaining penalty rates, a $15 000 subsidy from the government favours those businesses that work standardised hours compared to businesses like ours which operates after hours, weekends and public holidays. Maybe you should be offering $18 000 to us in order to reduce the expense imposed on us because of your industrial relations policy?
     
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    No it is for full time employees only, or could be implemented under a pro-rata per hour basis at a reduced lessor rate to compensate govt for the extra provision of services thereby encouraging the use of full-time employees and job security for the citizen. This provides some flexibility for both employers and those entering the job market. The nature of sole traders is it is a small business, 'principle of citizens first test' applies in direction of policy. Sole traders are living citizens, corporate entities are not.

    Shiney, how many hours a week would you save without Federal taxes compliance cost? Stop fighting over chips like seagulls, and support a system that fosters enterprise and creates wealth.
     
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    Another party to go to .... they call themselves a "party" ... because they arent working ...
     
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    @fiat, re: the $15000 wage would give us no incentive as we don't employ anyone full-time.

    I'll have to have a think about your question regarding svings with tax compliance, but it would be in the $1000's of dollars, but mainly in workload as we (well, my wife :p ) compile all the BAS stuff herself and gets a bookkeeper to collate it so the accountant can sign off.

    Other cost burdens to consider are super and workplace health and safety costs.
     
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    $15,000 / 52 weeks / 38 hour week = $7.59 per hour paid by govt.
    Not too shabby to encourage sole traders to offer full time employment.
    No federal income tax encourages workforce participation.

    Applying 'principle of citizens first test', a pro-rata hourly rate may be applied, that favours a move to full-time status for the employee. Ie start a new business that maximises your employees time ;) with all the free time you have not worrying about compliance.

    Sole traders are living citizens, corporate entities are not.
     
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    Too true for career politicians.

    This Party is to be free from career politicians with the principle that serving beyond two terms mandates a third term, in jail. No member's spouse may run for election where a total of two terms collectively would have been completed.

    No Federal income taxes encourages workforce participation. Sole trader business will boom.
     
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    America would suddenly find a new country to go to war with...
     
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    Corporate globalisation is already at war with individual citizens.

    The pretence of dropping trade barriers decades ago was all about destroying unions and worker's rights, in favour of floating currencies that favoured the banking system and corporations offshoring and gutting a nation's productive wealth. Currency war is the new trade (barrier) war, except at the cost of the living standards of citizens whereby corporations profiteering through currency debasement of (cheaper) wages.


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    Here is an example of what we can expect form career politicians and their perverse way of thinking. The corporate oligarchy that has destroyed democracy puts forward their own puppets.

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    If a double dissolution is called, this party won't have time to register for the senate if they haven't already met the criteria. See you in 3-4 years time
     
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    Yep seems that way.
     
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    Before going into your policy ideas bit by bit, overall I'd say "Turtle Yeah" in comparison to the current system.

    Does that mean I agree with everything? Heck no.
    Do I think a more internally consistent, rational policy agenda exists from alternatives like the LDP? Hell yes.

    Given that pretty much every party will involve compromise compared to your personal policy agenda, then in reality you're probably more after a party that helps to steer Australian politics back into the right direction. Hence, I'd I suggest meeting up/joining with one of the existing parties (eg the LDP or the Pirate Party) who already exhibits a broad spectrum of the ideas. Once in, then you can open the debate to add in your extra policies.
     
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    This is rushed, but a quick list of what I think are:

    Overall good policies:
    Abolish Reserve Bank
    Abolish all govt. guarantees to any and all in the private sector ie. Banks...
    Principle of citizens first test, shall be enshrined in law, to stop acts of treason against ordinary citizens such as Covered Bonds degrading the protection of deposit holding savers. (must admit not entirely sure what this means :p )
    Individuals pay no tax, ever - Federal.
    ATO downsized.
    Centrelink abolished.
    GST is abolished. Recommendation that States implement a Land Value Tax on affluent and disproportionate amenity enjoying suburbs, executive style homes, foreign owned property, corporate owned property, idle land banking property and vacant dwellings.

    Various drugs made legal for those over the age of 25 years upon successful completion of 'Health and Lifestyle' license added to Medicare card. Supply of said drug to those under-age will be dealt with severely and go through a process ultimately leading to mandatory jail terms. The govt in no way condones the use of drugs in this action, yet seeks to provide for 'less bad' outcomes for the overall benefit to the community, such as removing profit from organised crime and corrupt officials. Ofcourse intoxication and disturbing the peace laws will have full effect.

    The state shall respect the right of citizens to personal privacy. Terrorism shall not be used as a blanket cover-all to intrude upon generations of law abiding citizens which have made this country great.

    Any policy that on balance provides for a better standard of living for citizens shall be duly considered.


    Lukewarm policies (either would refine them or they are ones I don't really see a particularly strong need for):
    We support a Royal Commission for the banks, but seek to have it broadened to include the entire financial services sector - everything from payday loans to derivative instruments and their regulation or disallowment.
    This Party is to be free from career politicians with the principle that serving beyond two terms mandates a third term, in jail. No member's spouse may run for election where a total of two terms collectively would have been completed.
    Royal Commission investigating immigration in relation to effect on citizens standards of living and effect on employment conditions. Citizens first test is to be determined and applied to all future immigration policies. Extended probation periods for new immigrants. Evidence of building of a nation within our nation, especially in regards to terrorism, or a State controlled enterprise of a foreign nation within or borders, can result in forfeiture of citizenship and immediate deportation and/or corporate expulsion.

    Corporations, Trusts etc pay tax as a percentage of revenue (Very GST like, except imposed on corporations instead of citizens), and a percentage of debt they hold to negate any inflationary benefit they may receive through Govt expenditure related inflation. ie NO DEDUCTIONS, NO international scam transfer deductions, No free ride through financial repression of savers, etc.

    Appropriate volunteering opportunities for said minimum income will be made available for all others, relative to age and ability. Fostering a sense of community enrichment and participation, not welfare. - Although the intention is good, I don't think this is something that can be centrally planned.

    Acknowledgement that blockchain technologies will make present financial intermediaries largely obsolete. New Treasury department heads the initiation and implementation of p2p blockchain technology through the newly created, The People's Bank of Australia, whereby dividends are paid directly to Treasury. Subject to legal advice, non-transferable shares will be given to everyone in the nation, surrendered at death and issued at citizenship, and will not be Govt owned nor Govt guaranteed. It will be a p2p network, maintained by the Treasury for the fee of said dividend. It will be possible that shareholders could vote through transparent blockchain technology. Such new voting mechanisms can ensure the integrity of elections, and even the engagement of high level public servants and judges, so as to truly reflect societies values - as opposed to the agenda of presstitutes within the media, special interest groups and the overbearing and intrusive nanny-state. Interest rate mechanism to be determined, that takes into account wealth transfer from individuals with greater borrowing capacity. - Love the idea of actual citizenship shares (but they should be transferable). Don't really see the need for forcing blockchain or creating a People's Bank of Australia.

    Bad policies (or need much more refinement to be workable):
    Treasury prints money to a maximum percentage of GDP to cover loss of individual tax revenue.
    A new Federal Corruption agency, holding politicians, judges, public servants, directors of corporations, corporate financial officers etc. criminally responsible with mandatory jail sentences, and seizure of assets 'behind the veil'. - No mandatory jail sentences EVER. Don't particularly see a need for a new corruption agency, particularly as many of the other policies are removing the incentives for corruption in the first place.

    Welfare disbanded in favour of the first $15,000 wage paid by the govt to any sole trader enterprise, with an additional amount per child/student under 18yo. A fair minimum hourly rate remains, as does all shift allowances and penalties. A minimum of 38hrs per week to be worked before stay at home parent can directly receive $15,000 payment paid through the aforementioned employer at govt's expense.
    Furthermore support for all mums to participate in this wage by way of free Child Care placement in 'average' suburbs where housing is deemed 'affordable'. Ie no free ride for affluent suburbs and executive style homes.
     
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    Thanks for your input.

    I would say centrally facilitated not centrally planned. There is a network of community groups already in place, Lions, Apex, Beach Life Saver club, Red Cross, Men's Shed, CWA, School Parents associations, seniors groups, local community gardens ect. Let's say someone is presently on a disability pension, rather than welfare I propose in accordance to their ability and skills we get Australia back on track for community enrichment and participation, not welfare. Many young people have no idea the value of primary school stay-at-home school mums added to their communities in the pre-1980's. It could include craft workshops whereby Australian made crafts are made for sale at local markets. Principles of lifelong learning applied in a community focused setting. $300 per week may be only two day a week commitment. It is as much as encouraging people presently on pensions given them an opportunity to undertake training on a desired hobby interest, as opposed to sitting at home all week. Organic gardening, artistic craft etc, can lead to many positive outcomes into the future. Indeed why can't woofa style organic farms be a great opportunity, bringing our food back sourced within Australia outside of monsanto control. How many 70 yo's would love to participate in some way, let alone the disenfranchised literally enjoying the fruits of their labour.

    It's all about quality of life that the present system takes away from us.
     
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    What you are really doing is inflating the price of labour by $7.59/hour, or if you want to look at it another way, discounting the price of labour by subsidising the cost of employing someone. You're really creating an artificial environment that doesn't reflect the cost of employing someone or their real value in the market.
     

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