Need Professional Help for Large Bulk sale!

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  1. roquegallery1

    roquegallery1 New Member

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    If there is anyone who is familiar with these Medals/Coins? If so, I need your help. I am new at collecting large medals/coins. I was thinking about buying these items as a bulk deal, but I want to make sure I am not going to get ripped off, I am sure you can relate? This would be my first bulk buy if the price is right.

    Any comments or help on what I should pay would be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!

    1993 5 OZ Inventions & Discoveries Yin & Yang Philosophy 50y W/COA and box #0000438
    1997 5 OZ AUSPICIOUS MATTERS w/COA
    1990 20 OZ DRAGON PHOENIX, 150Y w/Box Mintage 1500 w/Box and COA
    1989 5 OZ Guanyin, Goddess of Mercy OFFICIAL MINT MEDAL W/COA BOX #0681
    1999 5 OZ SILVER CHINA PANDA 200 Yn PROOF 69 DCAM INT'L COIN EXPO HK *POP 6* Mintage 1999 PCGS 32569918

    1996 5 OZ UNICORN, 50 Yn w/ original Box and COA, mintage 1500
    1989 1989 China 5oz Thousand-Hand Kwan-yin silver medal coin with COA and box
    2001 5 OZ, Tun-Huang Rock Cave 8000 mintage
    1993 5 OZ SILVER, Yuan Fu Lu & Shu 50Y
    1985 5 OZ SILVER PANDA HK INT'L COIN EXPO W/BOX

    1988 5 oz SilVER, PANDA MUNICH INT'L COIN FAIR NG
    1995 5 OZ Yellow River Culture series I, 50y Mintage 500 NG
    1994 12 OZ UNICORN 100y with COA and box, Mintage 2000 #0000755
    1997 5 OZ AUSPICIOUS MATTERS w/ Box and COA #3753 NG
    2011 5 OZ SILVER, 300Y OFFICIAL COMMEMORATIVE, HISTORICAL MONUMENTS OF DEGFENG, CENTER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. W/BOX AND COA #4741

    1986 5 OZ SILVER, PANDA ANA 95TH CONV CERT NGC 3553438-005
    1989 5 oz SILVER Guanyin, Goddess of Mercy Official Mint Medal POP 25 NGC 355377-002
    1989 5OZ SILVER Guanyin, Goddess of Mercy OFFICIAL MINT MEDAL *POP 25* NGC 3553777-006
    1988 5 OZ SILVER, 7TH INT'L COIN EXPO HK/AG PCGS 27345861
    2005 5 OZ SILVER PANDA, 50 Yn PROOF 69 DCAM, BONUS BOX AND COA AS WELL PCGS 32569928

    1991 12 OZ PANDA PR69DCAM PCGS 27345835
    1997 5 OZ THREE KINGDOMS NGC 3406545-007
    1989 5 OZ GENERAL GUAN YU PF69UC NGC 3553437-003
    1987 5 OZ SILVER PANDA HK EXPO NGC 3553435-006
    1987 3.3 OZ SILVER SHOU-XING GOD OF LONGEVITY PF69 UC NGC 3553435-003

    1993 12 OZ SILVER, PANDA 100Y PR69DCAM PCGS 27345837
    1996 12 OZ PANDA 100Y PR69 PCGS 27345840
    1990 12 OZ PANDA 100Y PR69 PCGS 27345864
    1994 CHINA SCALLOPED HONG KONG BI-MET 50 MM --Mintage 400 PCGS 27755980
    1989 3.3 OZ SILVER ZHAO GONGMING, Ag PROOF 69 DCAM **POP 8** PCGS 27345842

    1987 5 oz, SILVER, PANDA, 6th INT'L COIN HK EXPO **POP 4** PR69DCAM PCGS 27345853
    2005 5 OZ SILVER PANDA, 5O Yn **POP 7** PR69DCAM PCGS 32569928
    1986 5 OZ SILVER, PANDA, 95TH ANA NY **POP 1** PR69DCAM PCGS 27345848
    1988 5 OZ SILVER DRAGON
    1997 27 GRAM SILVER (38MM) CHINA "YEAR OF THE OX" W/BOX AND COA
    1991 3.3 oz SILVER PANDA 10TH ANNIVERSARY MS69, *Mintage 2000 NGC 3553437-004
     
  2. Altima

    Altima Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Not sure how you want help or advice? Perhaps you can start off with saying how much the seller is offering you the entire bulk for?
     
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    hiho Active Member Silver Stacker

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    maybe Yennus can help
     
  4. Aureus

    Aureus Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I think you're playing a very dangerous game buying into these without any knowledge of them.
    The risk of losing thousands instantly outstrips the reward, a lot of those could be fake and a lot of those have fluctuating prices and are hard to sell.

    Not to sound like an ass, but I think those that do have the knowledge to give an accurate ballpark figure (would take a very long time) would probably do you more help to stay quiet.
    Unless of course you can get good photos of each and we can authenticate and work from there.

    Talking from experience too by the way, when I first started buying slabbed 5oz pandas my first 2 of 3 were fake - quick but expensive learning experience.
     
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    Altima Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    2 out of your 3 slabbed pandas were fake? Damn they're getting real good at this!
     
  6. Aureus

    Aureus Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Not good enough to have fake coins pass grading.
    Good at putting fake coins in slabs they have opened - yes :(

    My fault ultimately, don't buy coins you have not seen in person - always ask for clear photos from multiple angles of the actual coin for sale.
     
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    dccpa Active Member

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    You are looking at a bulk buy of coins from a country of origin that is famous for counterfeiting. What could possibly go wrong?
     
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    mmissinglink Active Member

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    If those are all genuine, they'd be worth a small fortune I believe.

    Do you get some sort of return guarantee on them if any turn out to be counterfeit?

    Aureus' suggestion is worth noting
    You could start by checking the TPG (PCGS / NGC) website photos with the photos the seller supplies but request high quality photos from the seller in order to do this.




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  9. yrh0413

    yrh0413 New Member

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    If you think you are getting a good deal out of this, why not just grab a return air tickets and meet up with the seller? You get to examine the coins/slabs in person and if it turns out to be fake all you lose are your air tickets.
     
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    worldbubble Active Member

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    Are you going to grab them personally?
    Is it just a list for sale or there are pictures of coins?

    P.s. I have seen kind of this bulk sale though it was 150+ years numis ... At my very safe estimate collection was worth about $30k if sold piece by piece. The buyer (not me) got it for $12k.
     
  11. mtforpar

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    There is a big problem when one is playing in a sandbox that they lack knowledge about. Yes, you could be getting some great deal. However, if you lack to knowledge to definitively determine that on your own then you may also be buying worthless junk. Generally my advice is to stay away from investing in things that one does not possess the knowledge to assess.
     
  12. andrewlee10

    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    roquegallery1 has posted few big items from China in this forum. On top of it post in other forum if I am not wrong.

    No price indication and photo in the thread and ask for opinions.

    it is not possible to just give opinions in this case
     
  13. milkyspot

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    i would never but from roguegallery. He is even a bigger noob than me.

    better pay a few bucks more and get my stuff from reliable sources
     

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