Masterpieces in Silver: Definitive ASW List

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  1. rbaggio

    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Inspired by projack's previous work, I decided to put together a list of the entire Masterpieces in Silver sets to date. My sources were:
    * 1998-2011 -> http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/purchase/mintissue.cfm (from the original magazines)
    * 1988-1997 -> http://www.australianstamp.com/Coin-web/aust/proofset/masterpc.htm

    What is below is correct to the best of my knowledge. If there are any errors let me know. Also if anyone knows the ingot weight from the 2006,2007 sets let me know :)
    (Thanks to Dan Unda for filling in some blanks as well)

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  2. Dan Unda

    Dan Unda Member Silver Stacker

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    1989 ingot -- 23.57 gms

    1991 " -- 16.13 gms

    These are specific items that I weighed, no idea of "nominal" weight...


    2003 Port Philip Patterns set has an ingot.. The two I weighed went 20.22, & 20.28 gms

    I think the 2006 set has an ingot as well, but I don't have one of these, so don't know the weight..


    Also, the published spec for the plaque in the 2000 Monarchs set, is incorrect..
    Weight claimed is 29.5 gms .. They are in fact 38+ gms.. Bonus !!
    I've weighed several of these, only one went a whisker under 38, all the others over (by varying amounts) ;)

    edit -- Prob'ly shoulda kept this bit under me hat :D :p :lol:


    :) :)
     
  3. rbaggio

    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Thank you :) Updated above.


    I can't believe I didn't notice this in my own set! I weighed mine just now and I got 19.88, so I will use this lower of our values to be conservative.

    If anyone has one of these, let me know :)

    I might leave this as is at the moment .... maybe there were inconsistencies during manufacturing? Who knows. Would prefer to keep this list as conservative as possible, and like you say, if any bonuses are achieved, then good!
     
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    hiho Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I've had this 1988 Silver $1 for ages, never knew it was part of a set until this thread :)
     
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    kaz New Member Silver Stacker

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    Are you also wanting the actual mintage, because the stated ram mintage (preset before sales) and the actual mintage sold vary according to the two sources of Australian numis goods. I can supply the actual mintage if required.
     
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    Dan Unda Member Silver Stacker

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    Check your calcs for the 1989 50c coin set ;)

    These have a "nominal mass" of 18 gms.


    :)
     
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    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I think my calcs were ok, just my source was wrong!

    http://www.australianstamp.com/Coin-web/aust/proofset/1989mast.htm -> reckons 15.55g, which is indeed incorrect. Krause KM #99a also has it at 18g as you say.

    Fixed, thanks :)
     
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    Elemental Active Member Silver Stacker

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    This is a fantastic reference - thanks to all contributor's on setting this up.
     
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    I bought some masterpieces in silver 2006 at our Rocky Coin Fairr. When I bought them I thought they were sterling silver 1oz. The set cost $160. To my surprise when I read the Certificate they are
    99.99% Fine Silver. Weight is 36.31 and diameter is 38.74.
    They are Proof and in the coin catalogue the mintage is 6018. I
    hope this info will help you.
     
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    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Hi Bernhard, thanks for your interest :)

    Which catalogue has the mintage at 6,018? Both the RAM and Krause catalogue have the mintage as 10,000.
    http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/purchase/downloads/mintissue67.pdf (p.15)

    Maybe the catalogue meant 'sales' as 6,018 ... if so, which catalogue has this? It might be useful for the other years.
     
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    Australian Coins and Banknotes 18th Edition 2011 by Greg
    McDonald.Mintage Limit 10,000 Actual 6018. All other mintages
    are in the catalogue.
     
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    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Bernhard, can you do me a favour and list the 'actual' for each of the years?
     
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    1988 Limit 5000 Actual 5000
    1988 Limit 20000 Actual 19970
    1989 Limit 2500 Actual 2500
    1989 Limit 22500/Actual 22499
    1990 " 2500 " 2500
    1990 " 22500 " 21051
    1991 " 1000 " 1000
    1991 " 24000 " 24000
    1992 " 25000 " 23633
    1992 " 5000 " 1382
    1993 " 20000 " 19546
    1994 " 20000 " 18364
    1995 " 20000 " 14000
    1996 " 20000 " 9031
    1997 " 10000 " 10000
    1998 " 15000 "15000
    1999 " 15000 " 15000
    2000 " 15000 " 10412
    2001 " 5000 " 5000
    2002 " 10000 " 9096
    2003 " 10000 " 7489
    2004 " 18000 " 8250
    2006 " 10000 " 6018
    2007 " 10000 " 3975
    2008 " 7000 " 1903
    2008 " 3000 " n/a
    2009 " 7000 " 1490
    2009 " 3000 " n/a
    2010 " 7000 " n/a
    2010 " 3000 " n/a
    I hope this is what you want.
     
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    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks, this is great. I think your catalogue is breaking out the general issue plus the coin fair sales separately, which is fine. I will add them together for our figures.

    You get honourary naming for v0.4 of the table :)
     
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    kaz New Member Silver Stacker

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    what needs to be considered as well that in the years of 1991 and 2004 very few of these sets will be intact. Many, many of them have been busted up for the individual coins. :( for the sets :) great for collectors : intact sets worth more money as time goes on :)
     
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    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Good point ... in fact, a lot of these sets are being broken up now (especially the 93-97 years). A quick search on ebay will show these individual coins being offered and sold.
     
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    1992 Royal Ladies...

    These are 4x $25 coins @ 33.63 gms, + 1x 45mm medallion @ 50.44 gms (.925)

    By my calculations, that's 5.5006 oz ASW


    (apologies for the "nit-picking" ;) )


    :)
     
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    guys, i have the 2001 port phillip set, what is this about the ingot? i dont know if my set has it or not. is it the oblong down the right bottom corner that says 2003 Masterpieces in Silver ? this doesnt seem to come out of the case. am i missing something? how do you know the ingot is silver? cheers
     
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    Thanks rbaggio. This is very helpful.
     
  20. Silverfreak

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    I like collecting the 1998 Milestones 50c Crowns.
    Not sure why, I just like them.

    Shame about the sets being busted up though.
     

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