lets clarify something (certicards)

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  1. robmetal

    robmetal New Member

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    real dilemma here!

    how do i know that the content of a certicard is what is stated?

    lets say i buy a 10 gram PAMP Suisse bar (we all know what it looks like) from a website called X (that also buys back from me when i decide to sell); therefore they take the product and resell to someone else and so forth.

    what if somebody in this cycle has a fake that looks exactly like a PAMP product, sells it to website X. website X receives it, sees that its in a certicard no fuss puts it for sale. now i buy it and i have a fake bought from website X which is known for being the most reliable?

    do these websites when they buy assayed products (in certicards) send them to their mint ( pamp in switzerland) to be reassayed?

    i surely hope so but i certaintly dont think so?

    can somebody shine a light in this process?

    thanks
     
  2. silverreef

    silverreef Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    They can be verified using PMV without the need to opening it up
     
  3. House

    House Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Being reliable means that they should be testing every bit of metal that is being bought off the public. PM business is built on trust. Every now and again one may slip through but assayer bars can easily be XRF'd so there's really no excuse.
     
  4. anonmiss

    anonmiss Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Dealers should be testing every thing. I have one customer who gets me to take the XRF to the counter so he can see the readings, he's a happy man and a regular now. :D
     
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    raven Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    and no, they don't go back to the mint !
     
  6. 1ozTrOy

    1ozTrOy New Member

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    There are fake gold pamp fortuna that is of the exact weight and dimensions going around and it even has the certicard. But i believe the card itself is not on the creditcard type of plastic but instead in a heated hard plastic. There was a guy sellin them for $1000cnd.
     
  7. anonmiss

    anonmiss Active Member Silver Stacker

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    An XRF can pick up an abnormality thru a capsule. When I found the fake Krugerrand I asked to customer if I may remove it from the capsule to double check but I knew what the answer was going to be. :(
    XRF thru certicards is not a problem.
     
  8. Captain Kookaburra

    Captain Kookaburra Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yep ... Easy to find a fake through a certicard. No brainer with XRF.
     

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