Is silver spot below cost?

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  1. pug

    pug Member

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    Take a look at the http://www.store.firstmajestic.com/
    They haven't dropped the price from $27. Ever since silver fell below that point.

    We know other dealers have just raised their premiums.

    Silvertowne is currently asking $26 per oz. Which is about a 15% premium.

    I bet if spot fell further you'd just see the premiums go up further.

    Any more examples you can find of this?
     
  2. Argent47

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    Depends. For some miners, yes, for others, no. Some mine it for ~$5.
     
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    Holdfast Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    pug - plenty of miners in business mate as can be seen by the chart.

    Like anyone else, blokes are in business to make a dollar, so while demand is high, of course dealers are going to try to benefit; you'd do the same thing.

    What we can do, is shop around to find the best on-line price or if you have purchased a lot of metal from one particular dealer, don't be scared to ask for a discount or at least price match.

    The other thing to remember is to support those dealers that do go the extra mile, not only now but in the future.



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    Last week The Silver Institute reported the 2012 figures, and also this:
    "Primary silver mine cash costs rose to $8.88 an ounce, reflecting higher prices for labor, electricity, and maintenance charges."
    So the cash cost is about $9 an ounce. Spot $22-9=now 13 dollars left to divide as profit in the production & distribution chain.
    Keep in mind that this cash cost only refers to primary silver mines, which account for only 28% of the total mine production. For the 72% others it's a more complex story due to byproduct and silver thus only a smaller part of the story. One may assume though that above higher costs apply to them too.
     
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    monopolize Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Its more accurate to refer to 'all in costs' as the cost of silver, rather than cash cost. All-in cost includes borrowing interest, tax, office costs, advertising, environmental fees, exploration expenses, and administrative expenses, and is a a much more realistic measure of what it costs to produce an ounce of PM. Cash cost is really a misrepresentation, misleading, and the miners love to give it to investors because it makes them sound like they are more profitable than they really are.

     

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