Help Grading a Melbourne Centenary Florin

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  1. Kam

    Kam Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Hi, interested to have your opinion on this coin's grade

    Cheers

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    How is the wreath, and the riders hand on the horse?
     
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    Kam Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Both look to have sharp details, I'll try to get some close-up photos
     
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    is the o in victoria in the top photo scratched? what about the riders knee?
     
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    Very nice !

    Certainly better than VF, even EF... but it needs closer shots to determine the extent of patina on the coin, although patina should not detract from the overall grading, except in the case of hiding other imperfections, but in my opinion it seems to be almost uncirculated, with a strong strike and a reasonable degree of lustre...

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    Looks aUNC to UNC
     
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    Kam Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks chaps for all the comments so far, it wasn't easy but managed to get better photos than the initial ones, need to remember how to use my camera properly, it's tricky when it gets to coins photography

    Alos when looking closer, noticed a couple of tiny scratches on both sides

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    Can I ask what you paid?
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    firstly nice pics kam, I know how hard silver coins are to photograph!
    I would say it might touch MS 61/62 but it appears there is breaks in the lustre. having said that it really is hard to grade a high end coins by pics. f-xf is easy because you are dealing with wear only. aUnc up it becomes difficult unless you have the coin in hand
    either way it is a great coin and I am very jealous!
    how much did you pay if you don't mind me asking?
     
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    Kam Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks guys for your input, much appreciated.

    Now I have a better idea on the coin, TBH wasn't expecting it to grade that high

    Cheers
     
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    Theres a little rim damage and some minor feild damage (which is the main thing letting it down in terms of eye appeal - id say it is uncirulated as in never been spent and transacted with

    Numismatic grade - id say AU55
     
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    I'd say your coin is aUNC
    Looks like its had a light clean (the patina behind the devices on obverse leads me to suspect this)
    This in my opinion its the nicest coin struck of all the Australian Pre decimal coinage, unfortunately there were 2,000,000 struck and a great many were taken from circulation very early so its numismatic value is not high.
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    the mintage was 75,000 , according to some you read about half were not sold and was remelted , mintage was more like 50,000.

    value $350.00 - $450.00
     
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    Where can someone buy one?
     
  15. goldpelican

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    They're a staple item at most coin shops I've been in that handle any quality pre-decimal.
     
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    Oops sorry about that, the 1927 Canberra Commemorative florin had 2 mil struck and these were taken out of circulation early and as such don't hold much numismatic value, the 1934-5 Melbourne Centenary florin mintage numbers is as you say.
    Incidentally, Foy & Gibson used to sell these in their department stores back in the day and were presented in one of two types of paper bags which are extremely collectable in themselves
    I have one Melbourne 1934-5 Florin but its EF and dirty
    Cheers
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    silver addict Active Member Silver Stacker

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    the perth store foy and gibson bag is worth double what the coin is worth in this condition


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    Just by looking at your photo's I would say it's a good EF, these IMO are the most beautiful pre-decimal design and one of the best in the world.

    I don't mean to hi-jack but here is a photo of mine, it has been graded by a ANDA member from my LCS as UNC


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    Absolute beaut! so so so much nicer uncleaned.. certainly the one id buy out of the above specimens.. excellent coin!

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