Gold and Silver prices - 2011 update

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  1. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Brilliant charts from goldprice.org (supplier of fine spot price charts to Silver Stackers everywhere) if you haven't seen these before. Updated for 2011.

    edit - these charts and figures have been updated for the end of 2011 and are now static.

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    Source: goldprice.org

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    Source: goldprice.org

    Figures of note:

    Silver down 10.8% in AUD for 2011 (10.2% in USD).
    Gold up 10.2% in AUD for 2011 (10.1% in USD).

    Silver has resulted in positive AUD returns 6 out of the last 10 years (8 out of 10 in USD).
    Gold has resulted in positive AUD returns 8 out of the last 10 years (10 out of 10 in USD).

    Silver's average AUD return for last 10 years is 13.6% (22.3% in USD)
    Gold's average AUD return for last 10 years is 11.8% (19.1% in USD).

    My biggest takeaway from this is that silver is a lot more volatile for not much more return, gold is a steadier performer with less pucker-factor.
     
  2. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Yep - based on a starting price of $30.37 for 2011 (based on Perth Mint average of average bid/ask on 4th Jan 2011), and the intra-year high of $44.35 on 29th April 2011, if we had ended the year on $44.35, that would have given 2011 a performance of 46%.

    46% instead of -3.5% would have changed the 10 year average from 14.4% to 19% - a considerable difference - but the point is, this didn't happen. We got -3.5% performance for the year.
     
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    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Just noticed that in both metals, they have the lowest average performance in AUD. Clear indicator of AUD strength increasing methinks. Consider what a devalued AUD would mean for metal prices.
     
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    I think what is also interesting is how little the AUD/CAD/INR lost during 2008 in relation to the other countries.
     
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    Lunardragon Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Is it coincidence just looking in the historial data tat silver hit the peak in 5yrs cycle n gold in 3yrs cycle (in aud)?
     
  6. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Final figures for 2011:

    Silver down 10.8% in AUD for 2011 (10.2% in USD).
    Gold up 10.2% in AUD for 2011 (10.1% in USD).
     
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    From the kitco website.


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    Thanks boss .these figures are what people need to be factoring into their get rich quick schemes . In time im sure PMs will pay dividends but your not going to retire making those meagre gains on gold or that loss on silver.
     
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    Eureka Moments Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Thanks for the charts and 10 year averages.

    If world markets dive again like 2008 I assume that Gold is an asset that will be less affected in relative terms than other commodities. I see that many Stackers are leaning heavily to Gold now and are bearish about Silver in the short to medium term.

    Would it not be easier to only stack/invest in Gold? A lot less weight to store or stack and a lot more resilient to market crises and crashes it seems.
     
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    Austacker Active Member

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    I totally agree 100%. The variable is the potential growth for Silver and this is what the majority of stackers are hoping, praying, wishing, will have a violent upswing and the return should be monumental. When though, that is the question not so much "IF"
     
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    grinners Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Great thread. Thank you.

    People were bearish on silver after 2008 too but moving to all gold then would have seen you miss out on 15.8% and 58% returns the next too years and instead make a 3% loss on gold in AUD!

    Now or soon is the time for silver according to this, the negative sentiment towards it only strengthens my resolve.

    (PS. I aim for 50-50)
     
  12. goldpelican

    goldpelican Administrator Staff Member

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    Getting close to the end of the year - time to update. These charts are live, I will freeze them on Dec 31st.

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    At time of posting in AUD, silver is 15.5% over 10 years (up), gold 11% over 10 years (down).
     
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    finicky Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    15.5% per annum

    Gold 11% per annum
     
  14. Dogmatix

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    It's an interesting way to see the prices - we miss the volatility and the range, but we get the long-term view.
     

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