do you think this is a proof?

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  1. serial

    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    hard to scan how shiny the coins are but it almost glows
    thoughts?
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    any one?
    well if not how about i show of a couple of coins
    feel free to offer values and grade opinion :)
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    1893 50cent :)
     
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    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    how do you tell the diff?
     
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    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Go buy/borrow a proof & UNC and have a look at the difference ,too hard to explain
     
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    Also has a couple of dings.
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    so your saying because it has dings its not a proof?
     
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    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    No !
    Different dies were ised , sharper crisper image to the background of the coin
     
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    No, PR65 instead of PR70 if a proof, or less than Unc if not.
     
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    George VI struck two sets on his accession in 1937 - the set with just the four base metal coins are rarer than the full set (which includes them!). Sets were also issued in 1950 and 1951.

    http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/decpr.html

    So I doubt the '45 is a proof.
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    well i am going through a box of coins i aquired, i might have the set from 1935 onwards
    fround a 35,36,37,45,43,42,48,46,44 so far that look like this one. i think i have others but have 2K+ coins to sort
    some are damaged because they have beeen stored in a box for 40 + years in old envalopes, tins etc
    did the proofs come specially wrapped\packaged or something?
    fyi the 50 cent coin was one i found :)
     
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    Usually in year sets.
     
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    There are two types of coins struck: business strike for circulation and proof strike for collectors. The dies used are the same as business strike specimens but a proof coin is one that has highly polished planchets, round disk, and has been struck multiple times, perhaps as many as seven strikes. A business strike is only struck once.

    From the images, I would guess the copper is a high mint state coin with full mint lustre, thus the eye appeal.

    You should be able to find out if any proofs were made that year using your annual guide book.

    The second coin may have been a proof but has lost all detail through circulation, which is not uncommon.
     
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    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    oh the 2nd coin was me just showing off and bumping the thread, i found that in the batch a couple of days ago only 24,00 were made i know its not a proof, if it was it would be worth $12k
    proofs where made and i do have a number of other 1/2 pennies in the same year no way near as nice. even if it is just mint i will be happy
    i just needed advice on proofs as there is no sure fire method to identify one on the net that i know oof.
    thanks for help btw
     
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    proofs get scratches too!
     

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