Classical Crown Sized Coins 1800-1918 : fotos and discussion

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  1. THUCYDIDES79

    THUCYDIDES79 New Member Silver Stacker

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    Hello

    Took a photo of some of my classical European silver coins -

    Note , each coin was the HEAVIEST silver coin that circulated in the region at the time.
    and in terms of gold was worth around 0.0425 oz - 0.0525 oz

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    I have just uploaded the photos of the coins , and in a day or two, il upload Mintage and other such info and we can try and generate some numi-discussions

    ps. the Italian 5 Lira costs the most
     
  2. Boyo

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    Stunning photos,Thucy.
    The bottom left is my favourite You know what I like :)

    Great heads on the obverse

    I dips me lid..........
     
  3. Naphthalene Man

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    Thanks Thucy. Looking forward to more info. I quite like my Netherlands 2.5 Gulden, even if it is only 0.587oz Ag. The larger coins certainly have more appeal.
     
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    THUCYDIDES79 New Member Silver Stacker

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    What year is the 2.5 Gulden that you have ?!
     
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    just a 1931 Wilhelmina
     
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    Where is the bottom left one from?

    I think i like the top row best of this lot
     
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    Ahh yep, i paid under $10 for mine
     
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    Good pick up!

    Not that i am aware of.
    I have some opinions tho, but not here
     
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    Excellent spotting Matrix... i'm off to google as a result
     
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    Jesus Matrix..Your pegging yourself into a corner for that Private Detectives Job!!!
     
  12. Argentum

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    the crown was damaged and became crooked and they didnt fix it . I'm not kidding this true story.
     
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    Thanks thucy :)
     
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    reseearch it; it really is true
     
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    Nice bunch of coins there thucy. Im a big fan of of that design Belgium 5 Franks, but havn't been able to add one affordably to my collection yet. I also enjoy crown-sized world silver coins. Love the Panama Balboas
     
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    THUCYDIDES79 New Member Silver Stacker

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    The eBay seller below has a bunch of 5 Francs French silver coins up for sale - he started of with around 120 5 Francs up for sale, it would have been nice, to have bought one from each mint to make a set.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/tonno64/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25

    The Belgian 5 Francs is probably the most affordable coin from that period as it has been minted in the millions.

    The Balboas are great, as are the other Latin American silver crowns, - ive kinda started with European coins first.
     
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    And now,

    Lets start with the 5 Francs Belgium coin during 1801-1900 only

    We have two Kings on the obverse

    Leopold
    &
    Leopold II ( my coins are all Leopold II - recently bought Leopold coin on eBay and am eagerly awaiting its arrival ;) )



    Concentrating on Leopold II issues, of which there are two varieties, one with the Large Head ( very rare and priced at around $300 when in F grade ! ), and the other with Small Head

    Small head

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    http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=1912&main_ct_id=110

    KM# 24 5 FRANCS (5 Frank)
    25.0000 g., 0.9000 Silver .7234 oz. ASW Obv: Smaller head,
    engraver's name near rim, below truncation

    Date Mintage F VF XF Unc BU
    1865 Inc. 1867 100 450 700 1,200
    1866 Inc. 1867 150 700 1,000 1,800
    1866 Inc. 1867;
    Dot after F on
    reverse
    110 500 800 1,500
    1867 3,693,000 7.50 25.00 70.00 110
    1867 Dot after F
    on reverse
    Inc. above 10.00 70.00 175 275
    1868 Position A 6,751,000 7.00 20.00 60.00 100
    1868 Position B Inc. above 35.00 120 330 600
    1869 12,658,000 6.50 8.00 30.00 65.00
    1870 10,486,000 6.50 8.00 30.00 65.00
    1871 4,783,000 6.50 8.00 35.00 70.00
    1872 2,045,000 7.00 10.00 60.00 90.00
    1873 Position A 22,341,000 6.50 6.00 20.00 60.00
    1873 Position B Inc. above 7.00 9.00 35.00 100
    1874 2,400,000 6.50 12.00 60.00 150
    1875 2,981,000 6.50 8.00 35.00 75.00
    1876 2,160,000 7.00 12.00 40.00 150
    1878 3 known

    Now Large head

    KM# 25 5 FRANCS (5 Frank)
    25.0000 g., 0.9000 Silver .7234 oz. ASW Obv: Larger head,
    engraver's name below truncation

    Date Mintage F VF XF Unc BU
    1865 Inc. above 450 2,500 3,500 6,000
    1866 Inc. above 400 2,200 3,200 5,000
    1867 Inc. above 275 1,700 2,500 4,000
    1868 Inc. above 300 2,000 3,000 4,500


    Now lets look at rough mintage numbers for this series of 5 Francs coins


    So total roughly 70 million coins

    and largest mintages have the following coins - ( thus least cost, assuming grades equal )

    1873 : 22.3 mill coins around 31% of entire series -
    1869 : 12.7 mill coins around 18 % of entire series
    1870 : 10.5 mill coins around 15 %

    one at 6.7 mill, and one at 4.7 mill, and the rest at less than 5 mill coins

    ** enough for now :)
     
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    According to Wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#Cross
     
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    I received this Spanish 5 Peseta silver coin today in the mail.

    To my knowledge this is the only Ruler to have made it on a coin when this young.

    KM# 689 5 PESETAS
    25.0000 g., 0.9000 Silver .7234 oz. ASW Note: Mint mark: 6-
    pointed star.

    Date Mintage F VF XF Unc BU
    1888 (88) MS-M 200 1,000 2,000 3,200
    1888 (88) MP-M 10,644,000 10.00 12.00 50.00 225
    1889 (89) MP-M 4,681,000 10.00 15.00 100 200
    1890 (90) MP-M 4,275,000 10.00 20.00 100 225
    1890 (90) PG-M 3,000,000 10.00 25.00 150 300
    1891 (91) PG-M 11,660,000 10.00 15.00 50.00 150
    1892 (92) PG-M 1,294,000 12.50 30.00 175 450

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    Alfonso XIII (Alfonso Len Fernando Mara Jaime Isidro Pascual Antonio de Borbn y Austria-Lorena; anglicised: Alphonse Leon Ferdinand Mary James Isidor Pascal Anthony of Bourbon and Austria-Lorraine; 17 May 1886 28 February 1941) was King of Spain from 1886 until 1931. His mother, Queen Maria Christina, was appointed regent during his minority. In 1902, on attaining his 16th year, the King assumed control of the state. Alfonso was born in Madrid, posthumous son of Alfonso XII of Spain, and was proclaimed King at his birth. The French newspaper Le Figaro described the young king as "the happiest and best-loved of all the rulers of the earth".

    Source : wikipedia
     

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