A medicare-style levy for increasing the Dole

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  1. willrocks

    willrocks Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    And I'll consider becoming a nett welfare recipient paying $0 in tax. It'll be my little way of recouping tax already stolen from me.
     
  2. errol43

    errol43 New Member Silver Stacker

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    Work for the dole schemes are a complete waste of taxpayers money IMO..

    Witnessed 10 workers and one supervisor working for 10 weeks clearing the foreshore of where I live.

    What a performance it was..

    My best mate at the time, a retired journalist, who was a victim of polio from the age of 2..I used to visit him each day because he was such great company with many fine stories that he covered over the years.His home was on the waterfront.

    Anyway back to the topic; Work for the dole.

    Well the crew would arrive in a van at 8.30am and soon some would drift away on the pretext of finding some work to do.. The supervisor would spend 30mins getting the last fellow decked out in his safety gear.

    Over 10 weeks they planted 200 trees and cleared a 20 m strip about 200m long..

    For this they received the dole payment plus about $200 a a week..

    The benefits of the job included long dinner hrs where cricket matches were the norm or maybe a swim in the ocean..

    One day, one skylarking young male out to impress two of the female work party as well as his fellow workers, climbed a coconut tree to get some coconuts..The tree was only about 6m high/up he scurried like a monkey, he reached out to get hold of the nut while hanging onto a branch. Yes down he went, back first..However he never got hurt much to my amazement.

    $30000 was the cost to the taxpayers..One man could have done a better job over the 10 weeks at less cost.

    How many trees alive today(3years later)

    You could count them on one hand.

    Then low and behold the local member made the news stating what a wonderful job they had done..BS

    Just like the training retail jobs,,What a Ponzi scheme. Centrelink pays some $200 per week for some 17 weeks to train a young worker. Another rort IMO.


    Regards Errol 43
     
  3. LovingtheSilver

    LovingtheSilver Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I know this idea hasn't been approved, but it will be interesting to see what kind of 'treats' the Labor party will hand out this election year.
     
  4. Caput Lupinum

    Caput Lupinum Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    If this levy gets through parliament then it leaves it open to be increased whenever they feel CPI is getting too high or they simply don't want to pay for the increase themselves through the debt market. It's straight out wealth re-distribution/socialism.
     
  5. Rinchin

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    Why work? if i was in oz this would be my cue to quit work and claim the dole while meddling in some cash jobs. I'm close to making that call here in NZ as it is with the pathetic wages and high cost of living. As soon as you get on welfare you get all sorts of "support' its not just about $s income. We are very much becoming a 2 class society and if im going to have the same standard of living whether i work 40 hours a week or zero I'm sure as hell going to chose zero. In a way its the productive choice, if im employed zero hours I get 40 more to earn under the table. All with the honorable goal of crashing the system.
     
  6. errol43

    errol43 New Member Silver Stacker

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    Increase the baby bonus to $10,000. :) :)

    Regards Errol 43
     
  7. tozak

    tozak Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Seriously just go with the flow and you will enjoy life a lot more.

    When the Liberals are in power then quit your job, start a business and employ as many as you can and continue to expand your operations.

    Then when the Labor party is in power then quit your job, fold your businesses and jump on the doll for a well deserved break because it's recession time.
     
  8. valuecreator

    valuecreator Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    the front of the IRS building:


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    with a lie like this you can justify anything.
     
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    STC Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I think they should have to pay it back when they get a job!!
     
  10. willrocks

    willrocks Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Problem is it will go back to the gov, not to the tax payers who shelled it out in the first place.
     
  11. Byron

    Byron Guest

    One of the things that struck me about NZ was that just about every single hospitality worker i came across was a foreigner. This was the case at multiple hotels/motels. Indians, Brazilians etc but not a Kiwi in sight.

    The second thing was that nearly all the souvenir shops were owned by Asians (Chinese, Koreans i assume). Again none owned or run by Kiwis.

    This is in the South ISland , never went north.

    What's the story. Is cheap labour killing the middle class?
     

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