2020 Collapse

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  1. TreasureHunter

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    These days I really with someone would export PEACE.
    The US-UN-EU used to be the "peace making" triangle. Until the "peace making" turned out to be rather "piece making" with Tomahawks.

    With the events in the last two decades, the US and the UN have lost their credibility.
    The EU has just lost it in the last decade.

    This is dumb, the world is headed for uncontrolled disaster. No-one seems to step in and the UN is cynically watching the warmongering.

    Greta won't stop this, she's crying in delirium for the polar bears.
     
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    Peace making drones and B1 Stealth Bombers haha.

    Get to the shelter! They are shooting more democracy!
     
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    Biden, Obama, Clinton's spring in the Middle East. Making a come back post-Trump? Back to the good old days I guess.
     
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    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/countries-start-hoarding-food-prices-051929166.html

    A number of factors are adding to a rally in prices for corn, wheat and soybeans, including floods in China and the country’s increased purchases to meet commitments under its phase one trade deal with the U.S. But Beijing is also keen to heed the lessons of the pandemic and ensure its stockpiles are plentiful enough to withstand supply issues, people familiar with the situation said last month.

    Some countries decided to bring their food purchases forward to ensure supplies in case the coronavirus rattles supply chains, said Abdolreza Abbassian, a senior economist at the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization. Only a handful really sought to boost strategic reserves, such as Egypt and Pakistan, but they also had other reasons to do so including access to foreign currency, the size of domestic supplies and the need to keep domestic prices in check.

    Bad harvests in Turkey and Morocco added to their need to boost imports.
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    Agricultural prices have been on the rise as countries stepped up purchases, adding to demand from China and a drought in the Black Sea region. That has helped push the Bloomberg Agriculture Subindex, which measures key farm goods futures contracts, up almost 20% since June. Sugar prices have gained a boost as China replenished stockpiles, said Geovane Consul, chief executive officer of a Brazilian sugar and ethanol joint venture between U.S. agribusiness giant Bunge Ltd. and British oil major BP Plc.

    And China could still add more fuel to the fire next year. The biggest importer of everything from crude oil to iron ore and soybeans, is planning to increase its mammoth state reserves as part of its five-year plan.

    “China would certainly support commodities prices if it made such extensive purchases,” Commerzbank AG Analyst Daniel Briesemann said in a research note.
     
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    Demonocracy is killing us slowly. It's just a more entertaining and seemingly "more free" version of a dictatorship.

    It's the road to Orwell's world.
     
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    Kiyosaki also started saying that gold's and Bitcoin's price will drop when they find a vaccine.
    I find this logical. But until then, the economies will probably take deeper divers.

    Hopefully it won't be a Microsoft vaccine (designed by Bill Gates) :D

    On the other hand, it's worth checking out Mike Maloney and other permabull's arguments. It's interesting how they envision 3,000 $, 5,000 $ and 10,000+ $ gold in the near future. Their predictions too seem logical and credible.
     
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    Empires rise and fall.

    Watch this.

     
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    the only way to win is to get the gold regardless of what all other people said, acceptance or rejection
    when more and more people get it, just to get a little, there is not enough a little for everybody
     
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    Andrew Maguire: Now China Is Buying Silver
    :D
     
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    Armenia seems to be losing. It's interesting because Azerbaijan is Turkic. I've seen future predictions of a new Turkic empire. It will be interesting if Turkic nationalism rises across central asia with Erdogan as the leader.


     
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    Israel sold drones to Azerbaijan, Turkey is helping openly with weapons
    so the drones have been working destroying tanks etc,

    but the last few days, many drones got taken down, even SU25 was down, id you see the fire fight, the plane crashed just few meters from the firing guy :)
    the US is secretly not revealing the position through NATO
    this is to put pressure near Russia, just like in Ukraine
    wonder what they would do if Armenia get involved, and the oil pipes go up in flames

    Erdogan is running out of countries to stir
     
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    Contrary to logic, the west and the Israelis are helping the Azeris instead of protecting the Armenians.
    Iran and Russia are trying to appear "neutral".

    Probably because no-one wants to have a conflict with Turkey.
     
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    Russia, Israel, Turkey they are all on the same side. The Saudis and gulf states are another bloc with some alliances with the US. China and Iran on the opposing end. This will determine the US elections outcome.

    66round is correct, all roads lead to Jerusalem...
     
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    I doubt they're really on the same side.

    Turkey has strong tensions and quite bad relations with Israel since the storming of a Turkish vessel by the Israeli army a few years ago. Turkey is sending humanitarian help to the Palestinians.

    Recently the Hagia Sophia was transformed into a mosque and Russia didn't dare contradict Turkey (perhaps due to Turkey's strong influence on other Turkic countries/populations bordering- and within Russia).

    Russia has at most opportunistic relationships with Turkey and in many things they don't agree. I think they are just using each other.

    Israel-Russia-Turkey is not a side, but several opportunistic ties connect them. And the problems they have are just as many as the things that connect them.

    Iran is the "jolly joker" in the middle, which China, Russia use the way they want, while Turkey and Israel are rather on the opposing side.


    The current reorganization of the balance of power is very worrying.

    While the US is losing ground, tyrranical, non-democratic regimes are gaining ground. Europe is not a player.

    Kissinger (or who?) said something like this (I'm paraphrasing): "If I want to call Russia, I know who to call, but if I want to call Europe, whom do I talk to?"

    Europe is not only not a power, the EU is crumbling from within. Brexit was the first brick, but the EU is decomposing slowly. My opinion.


    I just hope this idiocy ends peacefully.
     
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    I was just about searching on Europe when I encountered a comparison between spoken Polish and Russian words. It's almost like the same language. New to me as I never knew they were so similar as the alphabet is different. If they were Chinese dialects, they would be sub-dialects, not even considered dialects, let alone a different language.

     
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    First time I see anyone does this. It's difficult to breathe even using an N95 in a warm weather. N95 + surgical is quite a challenge. It would be far more comfy to use an N95 and a face shield.

    Coming back to your question. To counter tyrannical regimes, you must be one yourself to level the playing field. If Trump loses, the decline of democracy will accelerate worldwide.

    A lot of people are actually looking forward to the new world order without actually understanding what it entails. The tyrannical regimes also do not always work with each other, as eventually, they will invariably become arch enemies and fight wars much more devastating than between democratic nations, such as the war between Hilter and Stalin.

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    400 terorists terminated, 4000 more to go, will be terminated as well
    its a good place to eliminate terorists that Russia and Syria did not killed
    Turkey second most powerful Nato member, which is weak, when Russia stop tourist there
    Turkey seems to be in dispute will all the neighbours lol
    Greece,
    the sides are moving, like the end time
    the outcome would be the same, as the players are the same
     
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    @sgbuyer I agree with you. But the transparent face shields are far less popular. I think so far I only saw a single person wearing one. Perhaps no-one dears wearing one until it too becomes "fashionable".

    The valve masks are "sexy", but not sure if better than a KN95 without valve. The feeling (to me was similar).
     
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