Hi guys, bought this off a greek dude who looked 100 years old this morning. This coin is considered a key date, and worth a shit load if real - but that is the million dollar question - is it real? (A) Does anyone have any experience in these coins? Happy to pay a Brisbane expert to verify? (B) If real, I want to get slabbed and graded by professionals - but what if they don't send it back to me? What if they send me back a fake? Any help?
I'm certainly no expert but it looks like a fake to me. The chin, lips, and nose don't look right. Not enough definition on the ear. Don't quote me though.
Something definitely funny going on there. Did you weight it? measure it? Does it sound like silver? Try an ice cube test?
definite fake, the laurals protrude to far past the letters r and I, plus the nose and chin are wrong weigh and measure it for final proof of this fact if you want it should be 38.1 mm. 26.7300 g
1893 Morgan S Mintage 100000 Current Value USD: vF $4351, eF$9279, UNC $127761 Sorry to tell you - but of course you know - it's a fake. All 1893s Morgans were made from the same obverse die, so any discrepancies from genuine ones are pretty easy to spot. Professionals use the die gouge that traverses from the lh side of the foot of the 'T' in 'Liberty' and the die chip in the lh foot of the 'R' to verify formally (because all genuine coins have the same, being from the same die), but your coin has other issues such as shape of the nose, suspect typography and the tell tale red spots suggesting iron. Nose looks wrong to me too. I'd say it was Chinese, made in the last 10 years. How much did you pay for it out of interest?
$25 and got a couple 1899 ones as well, which I hope are real... Could still be an ok buy... Just nice to dream lol Appreciate the feedback. P.S. If I put up photos of the other 2, can you guys take a look?
if the price is too good to be true most likely it is a fake but you didnt get burnt a lot. I bought a couple of world coins of ebay didnt measure them just left them on my table after a couple of weeks and probably lots of moisture in the air the corrosion started to be visible
Yeah - too true... I am a gambler - what can I say hahaha. May have been fully rolled, depending on what you guys say about these ones - 2 other 1899 Morgans and 2 French Indo-china trade dollars... Thoughts? The laurals don't protrude so far on these ones..... Appreciate it guys
All look like Chinese copies to me, esp the trade dollars - do some more research on the Morgans to set your mind at rest tho' On the first Morgan here's the pic I was trying to find:
Strong magnets should be use at first. it helps detect any iron particles fast... Also, one can build a slider made with perplex with strong magnets glued to it, can't remember the actual degrees, but strange as this may sound, the fake ones that would pass the magnetic test, as mentioned above, would actually slide FASTER than the real ones... because real silver has a slight response to magnetic field, which means, once a real Morgan has been timed, you then have a specific data to work with and to compare any others... Of course, in the case of very sophisticated forgeries, remember that the silver content may be right, since the real value might be in its rarity... so it pays to be aware of the small details (whole books have been written about that subject) that other members here are telling you about. I hope this makes sense, and perhaps helps somehow...
