100 ways the gov waste money

mmm....shiney! · Feb 24, 2018

renovator said: ↑

4 times the public servants we need
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l***g said: ↑

Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahajahahahajahahaha
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4 is just a random number, the product is always the same eg

4 x 0 = 0

10 x 0 = 0

wrcmad · Feb 24, 2018

JulieW said: ↑

That's our money, by Law,
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Love the entitlement narrative.
IMHO, it's neither "our" money, nor "their" money.
As I have said before... just because you can vote to make it legal, does not make it moral.
Laws are easily changed, and so can be the vague definition in this law 1.2.3.10 - "....do not have adequate levels of income or assets that can be used to support themselves." The term "adequate" is both very subjective... and rubbery.

boneyard · Feb 24, 2018

Thanks for the thread.

Were do I start......

I was having a nice day till I opened this.

Skyrocket · Feb 25, 2018

Thread title should be - 1,000 ways gov wastes money

JulieW · Feb 25, 2018

wrcmad said: ↑

Love the entitlement narrative.
IMHO, it's neither "our" money, nor "their" money.
As I have said before... just because you can vote to make it legal, does not make it moral.
Laws are easily changed, and so can be the vague definition in this law 1.2.3.10 - "....do not have adequate levels of income or assets that can be used to support themselves." The term "adequate" is both very subjective... and rubbery.
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I've posted something like this before. The government takes your money on YOUR behalf and then reneges on returning it.

http://sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=3534

To dispel some misinformation currently being promoted by Party Politicians and their spin doctors and lying ex Ministers, listed here are some historical facts every Australian, especially the young who are under the misguided belief and/or assumption that they are funding the Aged Pension from their current hard work; They Are Not, they’re funding their own Pension Fund; a fund that governments have no intention of paying and to add insult to injury, legislate to force you to pay into a Super Fund to boot.

1939-1945 – WORLD WAR II

1942-1943
As a Wartime measure, the Federal Government gained sole control over Australian Income Tax. Labor Prime Minister ( Ben Chifley ) introduced three bills to establish the National Welfare Fund, to be financed by a Compulsory Contribution (levy) of one and sixpence in the Pound (20/- ) on all personal income.

1946
Opposition Leader ( Robert Menzies ) stated that the Compulsory Contribution (levy) should be kept completely separate. That it should be shown separately on the Taxation Assessment and paid straight into a “TRUST” account and not mixed with the General Revenue.

Menzies said “The stigma of charity should be removed from the Age Pension.” ”It should be an entitlement earned ny the person’s personal contribution to the fund.”

Prime Minister Chifley agreed and established The National Welfare fund as at 1/1/1946. A “Trust” Fund with the Parliament as “Trustee.”

The Compulsory Contributions (levy) commenced as at 1st January 1946.

It was shown separately on the personal Tax Assessments for 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949 and 1950

and the compulsory levy was properly paid straight into the Special “Trust” fund

and Welfare claims were paid out of the fund.

The balance in the fund in 1950 was almost 100 Million Pounds.

1949 Robert Menzies became Prime Minister and he introduced Bills to amend the acts governing the National Welfare Funds.

The Compulsory Contributions (levy) was then grouped with the Taxation Assessment and appeared as one amount on the Taxation Assessments and was paid as one straight into the Consolidated Revenue Account.

1951-1985
The Compulsory levy of 7.5% now included in the tax continued to be collected and placed in the Consolidated Revenue Account treated as General Revenue and spent, until 1985.

1974-1975
Labor Prime Minister ( Gough Whitlam ) abolished income test for all persons 70 years of age and over and paid pensions to all people over that age.

1975
Liberal Prime Minister ( Malcolm Fraser ) cancelled the Withlam achievement of abolishing the test for all 70 years of age and over.

1977
Liberal Prime Minister ( Malcolm Fraser ) with Treasurer Philip Lynch ) transferred the balance in the Welfare Fund Account ( approximately $ 470.000.000 ) to Consolidated Revenue Account.

1985
Australian Labor Government repealed acts No. 39, 40, and 41 of 1945 ( The National Welfare Fund Acts ). Thus the funds finally ceased to exist yet the 7.5% levy continued to be collected as a proportion of the Income Tax revenue. It also introduced the (much maligned) Income and Asset Tests, thereby excluding millions of levy and tax paying Australians from receiving Social Services Pensions.
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House · Mar 12, 2018

Derp.

Just a week after it was discovered that NSW’s $2 billion new train fleet will be too wide for the tunnels, the Queensland Government is facing the possibility of having to pull $4bn worth of new trains off the tracks because they are so badly designed, they’re basically illegal.
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News

JulieW · Mar 13, 2018

House said: ↑

Derp.

News
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The Indian-built fleet of 75 trains from Canadian manufacturing giant Bombardier, of which nine have been delivered, could be banned from working on the network.

Queensland Rail (QR) is desperate to avoid that outcome because the trains are due to ferry hundreds of thousands of people to next month’s Commonwealth Games.

“It really is a crisis. A massive bungle due to procrastination, obfuscation and gross incompetence,” a public transport advocate has told news.com.au. “All hell could break loose.”
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"A massive bungle due to procrastination, obfuscation and gross incompetence,"

Oh Really?

JulieW · Mar 13, 2018

Getting better:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/i...t/news-story/4c9e90977fd70a5440cba081e48a25bd

Dave Stewart and Neil Scales, two public servants who headed departments involved with the procurement of the NQR fleet in the run up to the contract being signed, now hold some of the most senior civil positions in the state.

Mr Stewart is the Director General of Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk’s Department of Premier and Cabinet while Mr Scales is the Director General of the Department of Transport and Main Roads which has been charged with sorting out the train mess.

Transport and Roads Minister Mark Bailey told news.com.au Mr Scales had his “full confidence” and laid the blame for the trains squarely with the Liberal National Party (LNP) who signed off on them when they were in power. On the contrary, the LNP said the train debacle was “100 per cent Labor’s mess”.
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Dave and Neil sound like they're in a band

House · Mar 13, 2018

JulieW said: ↑

Getting better:

Dave and Neil sound like they're in a band
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Only as a part time hobby as both of these impressive idiots earn $650k+ pa

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