1 oz 1998 colour panda

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  1. Thor122

    Thor122 New Member

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    I win one auction for the 1998 10 yuan 1 oz silver ngc pf 69 cameo for 151,50 plus 18 shipping.
    I try to buy others coins from the seller to spread the shipping, but he give expensive prices than ebay prices
    I ask the seller because i saw tiny milk spots in other coin 1/2 oz 1997 colour and he say the coin dont have milk spots.
    Now the seller say to me he re saw the 1998 coin and have tiny milk spots in the temple side
    He offer to me to cancel the bid. I dont know the seller intentions. He need to sell the coin to other buyer for more money?
    He say the truth and the coin have milk spots
    I saw i smalls points white in the ngc database photos
    The ngc number is 2760430-020
    Total ngc graded at 69 18
    Total graded 33
    Graded 70:0
    I will appreciate your opinions
     
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    jc888888888 New Member Silver Stacker

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    AHHHHHHHHHHHH my friend Thor, I bid on that coin:) was there a 10y proof in 1998 ?? Im not sure I looked in the China mint website and could not find it?? Only in colorized did i find a proof coin,if my assumption is right ,he relized the coin was mislabeled ,some collectors find mislabeled coin very collectable????? am i mstaken that there is no proof coin in 1998??
     
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    The colour 1998 is pf. It say proof in pricepedia
    And here

    http://china-mint.info/1998-chinese-coins.html

    I win the colour 1998
     
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    If it has spots, I would cancel the bid.
     
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    In the ngc registry photos in the temple side have tiny white points. Do you think are milk spots?
     
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    From your description, it sounds likely.
     
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    this is the coin i was talking about /did not know they made a proof in silver this year/mislabeled??
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    Yes the only proof in this year is the colours and munich.
     
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    Yea, i thought i was going crazy:) it is a 1997 small date........ went for 177.39 usd 2 nights ago on e bay, I bid it till 125.00 ,and of course lost, I wonder what NGC would do about the mistake ,it is clearly a mislabled coin then.................. :)
     
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    You can send it to them under the complimentary "mechanical error" service and they will correct the label. Just contact customer service and they will send you the form.
     
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    Or try to sell it as a one of a kind! :)

    (I'm kidding. That just creates confusion and annoyance.)
     
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    He send pm to me in ebay. He sell the colour proof outside ebay.
    I put him in the dont buy list. I ask for the ms68 panda 2000 1/10 oz and he say have a tiny red spot dont disclosed in the listing.
     
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    You should CC the PMs to eBay and get him banned just to piss him off.

    He is breaking eBay policies left & right.
     
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    here is the messages
    i dont send to ebay.
    because im a gentleman and i believe in truth and justice
    :)




    Dear drdivermel2010,

    The white point near the ear and down the 1/2 are reflex from the photo or are milk spots?
    I saw it in the ngc database photos




    Iwent to NGC and see it in the photo, but i do not see it when I look at the coin

    - drdivermel2010



    Dear drdivermel2010,

    Use you magnifyng or loupe to saw the coin? I dont buy coins with milk spots.


    This coin does not have milk spots.

    - drdivermel2010


    i just took another look at the 1998 10 yuan colored panda and there are some small spots on the temple side around the rim, so I don't think you want it. I will cancel the sale if you ask me to. I will take photos of the temple side for when I re-list it.

    - drdivermel2010



    Dear drdivermel2010,

    Its ok. Good luck with the relist.


    Someone just bought it

    - drdivermel2010





    Dear drdivermel2010,

    The 2000 panda is red spot free?
    I try to buy from you because you say the truth.
    Kindest regards, javier



    I tried to add the photo, but I guess it is too close to the end of the auction to edit the listing. The spot is not visible to the naked eye, but I will not let you bid on it for 2 reasons. You told me you only buy 69's and you won't buy anything with spots. I sold the colored panda the other day after we canceled the transaction. I included the photos of the mint spots and the buyer had no problem. You will find 69's with different kinds of things on them that do not affect the grade. I am not a grader and I have spoken to graders and they are very vague on why they do what they do.

    - drdivermel2010
     

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