silver bullet silver shield "replica"s on alibaba*com

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  1. surferx

    surferx New Member

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    Yes, good on you!!! Support these pigs
     
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    House Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Or, preferably, don't! :p
     
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    Interestingly Ali makes no secret about the metal used in this and other available items.

    I'd be keen to get one to have a good look at its appearance.

    I wonder if they are silver dipped?
     
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    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    :rolleyes:
    what you see in the photo is NOT what you get
    They are mostly chrome plated & way to shiny
    DO NOT support this crap
     
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    No not supporting it no way.
    Just be curious to see a knock off.
    I'm a guitar player. Been playing for donkeys.
    You should see some of the guitar "replicas"!
    Indistinguishable in many cases.
    Hope all's good spanner.
     
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    Surfer, how about using the genuine items for your keychains? They would be worth more, no? If I was a jeweler and making a ring with a rock in it, I wouldn't get a rock from my driveway, I would get the most expensive rock I could afford.
     
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    If there is a market for it they will make it, don't support it. How about I get some "replica" $20 bills made then sell them for $5 you don't have to. Be a genius to work out what they will be used for......
     
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    Yeah, I posted this then had to go to work. I should have been more clear on my opinion of the fakes,clads, replicas etc.. I think it's a bunch of BS especially if they are not clearly marked and advertised as a replica and/or trying to be passed off as real.

    I agree, I do not want to support them even if they were $1 shipped! Still... I am curious to see what they look like compared to the real thing.

    I do typically buy copper rounds that match my silver so I'm not afraid to handle or display them. As far as making a key chain out of the real thing, I actually did with a SBSS copper round. I ended up giving it to a friend that liked it.

    So the copper I keep out to enjoy, the silver stays locked away in my safe until I feel the need to take them out to view, glaring wide eyed while I laugh maniacally at the HUNDREDS of dollars of silver rounds I own, MUUUHAHAHAHA! :)
     
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    Often these items are advertised without existing - they will place an ad and wait for someone to order before they go ahead and create the replicas.

    Seriously though, there must be just a few places making this stuff. Why the hell they won't shut them down is beyond me, apart from a general disrespect of any concept of intellectual property.

    I've alerted Chris Duane and the current authorised mint about the existence of these copies.
     
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    I've seen knockoff/copies in every industry I've worked in ;)
    From the rag trade when I was a kid
    To cheap Taiwanese car parts , bumper bars that don't fit & cost you more time than the $20-$30 you saved :rolleyes:
    A friend of mine Jim.V used to test pro audio equipment for Chinese manufactures ,
    he once showed me a knock of "SHURE BETA 58

    $1 landed , it looked spot on even the box & case
    except when you picked it up , it had no weight in it :rolleyes:

    Yes I know about the knock of guitars
    I was in crimeconverts with an old guitar tech & he told me all about them ;)
    good luck trying to tune one :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I just hate knock offs in any form

    The ONLY thing that I would own that would be a replica is a




















    Porsche 550 Spider :D
    Anything else : WANT THE REAL THING " ;)
     
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    I was in China for 3 weeks back in 2000, they have fakes and copies for just about everything!
     
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    Awesome! I'll do the same next time I find this crap!
     
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    The biggest problem would be high quality reproductions encapsulated in high quality NGC / PCGS slabs. For all we know, it's already being done.




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    About 3-4 years ago, a client of mine was in a pawn shop that wasn't then, but is now on tv. Knowing I purchased gold, she told me about some 1893-o eagle gold coins. The pawn shop owner had 5 of them, all in slabs with no identification on the slabs. I told her they were likely fakes and she relayed that to owner. She said his eyes got real big. Then he stated that he got them from a gambler, so I must have been wrong. :rolleyes:

    While the coins were minted in Louisiana and the dealer was located in Louisiana, there were only 17,000 of these coins produced and I highly doubt that one person had 5 of them and had slabbed them without using a grading service. Only way I would have purchased coins like that is after removing them from the slabs and having them tested.

    Edit, About 3 years ago, Intelligencer went through the process of buying a slabbed gold Panda from a trusted local dealer. Something didn't seem right to him, so he opened the slab and the Panda was fake.

    I had recently bought a then current year 2010 gold Panda and was seriously stressed about confirming it was real. The original thread by intelligencer seems to have disappeared, but here is a conversation regarding it. See post #10.

    http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-4731-silver-panda-2011-oh-and-golden-too.html
     
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    Cajun Pawn Stars? That show sucks. I love the original pawn stars but that version is literally unwatchable.
     
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    Based upon the telephone conversation, I wouldn't leave a dollar on the table around that guy and expect it to be around when I came back.

    What I was told, is that he is related to the original pawn stars guy and that his head has gotten even bigger since the show started. I was also told something about a sign & the royal purple color being used, but I cannot remember the details. Apparently, he doesn't believe that his excrement has a maliforous odor. :lol:
     
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    @ dccpa,

    are the slabs you mentioned in your last post from any of the major TPG companies or simply home slabbed with a BCW (or similar) slab?

    The difficulty, I believe, in creating a good replica slab is in the security label...the slab itself can always be produced to look authentic.
    The security label is the much more difficult thing to counterfeit I believe.



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