What's the future of silver look like to you?

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  1. Court Jester

    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    sure nothing is impossible but goig back to a gold standard is about as likely as me getting a 3 way with taylor swift and DJT
     
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    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    It won't be exactly the same gold standard as in the past. I'm not an expert in this area to know what will happen.

    But using even a layman hat, if you think about it, advances in robotics and AI will reduce labour cost to almost free, so the value add in manufacturing will disappear within the next 30-40 years. In 30 years, all this trade war disputes won't even be relevant because manufacturing can be done anywhere in the world, even on a ship.

    If you don't need to pay for manufacturing, you don't need to outsource manufacturing. But stuff like food and oil still needs to be imported because AI can't create oil and land or Silver.
     
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  3. Court Jester

    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    anufacturing even with ai isnt free and can allready be done anywhere im not sure what the point is your trying to make
     
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    Maybe staying off the YIPPEE Bean would help you see clearer.
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  5. Court Jester

    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    and you need to put the crayon down and resume taking your meds aint nobody got time for old people rambling
     
  6. 66rounds

    66rounds Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    If you dont think a gold standard is in the works, i have news for you bud.
     
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  7. Court Jester

    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    id put 1kg of silver up to anyone who wants to make a bet on a gold standard being implemented within the next 2 years

    put up or shut up as they say
     
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    Number 47 Well-Known Member

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    That's what they call putting your money where your mouth is ... I like it !
     
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    the world is not going to return to gold or silver

    this is the world of the internet

    the world of gold and silver was before that

    as the people from America aged past the golden time of those metals , so did the hucksters from that era

    we were all exposed to those self-promoting hucksters promising the moon and saying "Just as I predicted it happened", no different from their forebears selling fake medicine in the 18th and 19th centuries to desperate and trusting folk

    there is no return to this era without the loss of our modern interconnected comforts

    just as peak oil was hysteria for mass consumption, peak oil prices were in 2011, fell ever since

    many people were skinned alive financially on the back of scurrilous exhortations from people who took no responsibility for their assurance and made off with their profits

    some sites should receive their reckoning, in the future hopefully DAILY

    there is nothing in these metals except what people see in them, just as in anything it is only worth what a buyer will pay

    you'd be a prize idiot to believe anything otherwise

    you being the prize, for the hucksters

    money can be made, but that is a far cry from the bullshit
     
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  10. kilo

    kilo Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Good convo, my 2c

    Could be I'm no analysit either .... layman hat on.... but as silver follows gold probably more like consolidation as the movers watch US/China US/Iran and to a lesser degree but no less important Brexit
     
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    The time frame I'm predicting is before the end of Trumps second term, so 5 years. And making a bet over 5 years just seems silly to me.
    It will probably happen midway through his second term. 2 years is a bit tight. probably more like 3/4
     
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    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    id go to 3/4 as long as the silver is held in escrow by a 3rd party
     
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    kilo Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Regardless of DJT No only is it not impossible it is inevitable and probably sooner than we all think. I have strong doubts it will be gold standard, that's far too tangible. Most likely a crypto, it's an obvious choice for banksters who love to inject stimulus using zeros and ones not to mention governments who are pre occupied with subject control.

    Cashless has been on the IMF agenda since the early nineties and it's almost upon us in Australia
     
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    Like i said, bets over periods of years just seem drawn out and silly to me but I'm sure someone will take you up on it.
    I'm betting on it by buying silver.
     
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    kilo Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yep me too - short/medium term gains to be made and longer term - tradeability
     
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    Just received an email . Short extract below.

    USD-Day, 12 September


    D-Day is bigger than just another rate cut. It’s the day when interest rate policy, exchange rate policy and the trade wars all converge. Interest rates affect exchange rates by drawing capital flows. Exchange rates affect trade wars by making exports more or less attractive to foreign buyers. Trade wars affect growth by causing the imposition of tariffs to offset the impact of exchange rates. It’s all connected and it’s all coming to a head on 12 September and 18 September. Prepare for a tumultuous and volatile reaction in the US markets beginning 12 September.

    So hopefully FRIDAY 13th next week and beyond it will be positive for Au and Ag prices in oz !
     
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    66rounds Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Sorry, not a gambling man, but if you put 1kg in escrow with our favourite John galt ill send you an oz of silver as a gift.
     
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    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    well it seems like old senile John has decided to shut up rather than put up
     
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    I must be getting bored.

    Feel free to pick this apart, there's likely to be errors everywhere here. I'll try to show my workings.
    With BIG numbers comes BIG errors.:eek:

    The problem I see with going back to a gold standard is...

    Let's take the USA on its own.

    US Nominal GDP: $19.39 trillion
    I'll round that up to $20 trillion
    That I believe means there's 20,000,000,000,000 US dollars in existence.
    Apparently the US gold reserve is
    8,133.5 metric tons, that's
    261,498,097 troy ounces

    Therefore, if my calculations are correct,
    In order to back all the US dollars in existence with US gold, one troy oz of gold would have to be worth...

    20,000,000,000,000 dollars
    ÷ 261,498,097 ozt
    = $76,482.4 per ozt

    That would make a few gold stackers happy.

    There's always the much more plausible reverse,
    Clean the slate and introduce a new currency, just as we did in Australia in 1966 when the Australian Dollar was introduced on 14 th February 1966 to replace the pre-decimal Australian pound.
    Adjust the "value" of the new currency to match both the gold reserve volume and the current gold price.

    US gold reserve = 216,498,097 ozt
    Times the current US gold spot price of $1537 / out
    = 332,757,575,089 "new gold backed dollars" in existence.

    As a fraction that's
    332,757,575,089
    Over
    20,000,000,000,000

    So the new dollar is roughly 1/60th of the old one.

    Take your existing bank balance, wage and cost of everything and divide them by 60,
    There's the new gold backed dollar.
    One new US dollar buys one troy ounce of gold.

    Is that correct?
     
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    66rounds Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    When hyperinflation kicks in, all the 0's won't matter. Governments will just cut them off and issue a new currency pegged at whatever rate their fortune tellers tell them to use.
     
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