I am usually alert of con's so I figure there must be a lot more to all this Will be keen to see what you post later
I also thought the headline of the article "Police nab gold plated thief" did not match up to the story. Gold plated theif... I wonder if it was fraud related. Possibly 'obtain financial advantage by deception'? No mention of any plated bars in the story. Unless it was a display bar and the thief stole it assuming it to be a real bar!
DON'T believe anything you read in the papers Here are the facts without naming names Person A handed over a dodgey cheque to company XXXXXXXXX last week There was nobody in a senior position around to validate the cheque The gold bar was sold to a dealer Wednesday & ALL PAPERWORK was done correctly Thursday Police arrive at company ZZZZZZ ,as the con artist had a cheque in his pocket for the purchase Which lead the wallopers (police ) to pay a visit to company ZZZZZZZ trying to seize the 1kg bar with no paper work at all The proprietor was told to hand over the 1kg gold bar without any legal paperwork or receipt They were told to go away & come back with the correct paperwork 15 minutes later they did come back with a warrant & a receipt for the bar The proprietor was arrested for handling stolen goods The person arrested was NOT the person who handled the transaction The proprietor told the police ,if he knew it was stolen why would he pay him in cheque form & take down all his details Would he not just pay him cash at around half price instead of market value End of story
I don't know where spannermonkey got his story from. But the facts are: Two people got charged a 23 year old and a 51 year old guy from Richmond, the 51 year old from Richmond is the guy that buys gold in the building I won't say his name out of respect all I can say is that he got charged because he did something wrong, eaither in paper work or he covered for the thief. For example if u find ur stolen things in a pawn shop, you can have them back or the police can take them away.BUT have u ever heard when the owner of the pawn shop gets charged? No way! unless the owner knew the goods where stolen or didn't record the transaction so was obstructing the police. I hope the 51 year old guy doesn't lose his second hand license as it would be the end of his business... he is a good guy, but obviously he screw up really bad and the police found out...
I've always found police to be a real coin toss. Half the time I get a human being who is doing his best to help build a society we can all live togeather in, who understand human situations and grey areas, and will be logical and reasonable. The rest of the time I get an A grade prick who just goes straight off the deep end at the slightest hint of you doing somethign reasonable like asking for a recipt for a FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR! item and will arrest you covered your back and made him get proper legal paperwork. Even in these times of currency inflation I don't thin 55k is a negligible sum. it could easily be a small businesses operating profit for a year.
I got the facts from the horses mouth 1 - the 51 year old IS NOT FROM Richmond 2 - 24 year old from Tarneit man was arrested within 30 min after receiving the cheque Wednesday night 3 - The person charged was charged with handling stolen goods 4 - ALL the correct paperwork was done as per usual AS I said before WHY would you give somebody a cheque if you knew the goods were stolen WHY would you ask for the persons license & put everything down on paper The person who sold the bar had they're name on the cheque AS I SAID before The person arrested was not the person who handled the transaction BIG stuff up by the cops
You guys are missing the point. The person that purchased the gold from the thief was charged along with the thief. They both were charged for a reason. If the police finds stolen goods at a pawn shop they simply recover them, and get the details of who sold the stolen item(s) from the records of the pawn shop. They don't go around charging the owners or operators of the pawn shop because he bought stolen goods. They only get charged when they got caught doing somthing they should not be doing!
You ASS U ME to know the facts ,from the newspaper article What you are saying is the wallopers don't make mistakes This is a big one for them
Oh you've never met a prick police officer..... as a point of note, you should consider the people charged innocent until proven guilty ;p especially the shop owner ;p
I hope you are right jaysilver because the alternative is that the copper got angry at being told to do his/her job properly and to get the appropriate paperwork and decided to charge the bullion dealer. If the latter is the case then it wouldn't be the first time a cop has charged someone just because they were irritated.
From my understanding (1st hand, 2nd Hand, from the Police media office and from the newspapers), is that there are a number of facts that are yet to come out. My concern here is that there are certain lines of investigation that need to be followed, and that the Police may not get to those things for whatever reason. (Jaysilver is not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to jumping to conclusions). The evidence is what counts at the end of the day. I watch with intense interest to see if the appropriate lines of inquiry are followed. At least they've booked a hearing date after the Gold Symposium, so I'll be there.
Any dealer I've dealt with insists on cash (and some will accept credit card with service charge) What dealer hands over 1kg of gold for a CHEQUE ?!?!?!?!
