You couldn't make it up......

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  1. Jim4silver

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    Apparently it wasn't such a frivolous suit for the spilled coffee now was it since a jury found in her favor? Where is your outrage at the jury? I bet McD's checks the temp on the coffee they've serve since then. Lawsuits and class action cases help keep companies in line. Without the fear of being sued do you REALLY think they would do the right things to protect their customers?

    Glad you don't get to decide who can sue or be sued here in the US. Folks with your opinion are why we need such laws in the US to protect claimants. You might not know this, but for someone to have a right to sue, that means there is a law in place that allows for such lawsuits. Attorneys earn a living just like everyone else. You might not know this but many lawyers turn down cases during any given year because of the reason you cite or others.

    Believe it or not, many claimants can't find attorneys to handle their cases because douche bag tort reform proponents have taken away or limited many types of damages sight unseen across the boards on certain causes of action. In many of those cases an attorney can't take the case because the attorney fronts the costs for the client during the pending case (expert witnesses - which can cost six figures or more in a med mal case, depositions, travel, etc) and has to collect them at the end of the case from the client's recovery - and nowadays most plaintiff attorneys in my state put in the retainer agreements (to be competitive with other attorneys) that if they (the attorneys) don't recover for the plaintiff, the plaintiff owes the attorneys $ZERO (the attorney gets no fee and eats all the litigation costs). If the case is not financially worthwhile to the attorney the client can't sue because nobody wants the case. This happens many times a day believe me. You know who benefits? Insurance companies and negligent physicians (for med mal cases). Those two groups love caps on certain types of damages because then they are off the hook, sometimes for millions $$$, even when the physician is clearly liable.

    The jury/judge is the decider of fact, not the lawyer nor the general public. If a cause of action doesn't exist it is up to the judge/jury to day NO. You are picking out the exception and trying to argue it is the rule.

    PS I do think there should be a rule where the loser pays the winner's legal fees under certain types of claims. That would cut down on many BS cases but could cause some legitimate litigants to be afraid to pursue their claims and lose out. There really is NO PERFECT answer to all of this unfortunately.
     
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    Good points Jim.
    I do believe the jury dropped the ball on the coffee case.
    You are right about the insurance industry benefiting.
    That's another topic that needs discussion and reform.
     
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    So our mechanic constructor saved the ratepayers from 45k to 130k after his action forced some light on their works department. Good O.

    See below
     
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    THE TOP DEMOCRAT on the Senate’s Homeland Security Committee is demanding answers about a report that the Pentagon wasted $28 million buying uniforms with a forest camouflage pattern for the Afghan army — even though forests only cover 2 percent of the country.

    Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., sent a letter to the Department of Defense asking for information about how it is investigating the waste internally and how the Pentagon plans to ensure its uniform choices are cost-effective in the future. What’s more, McCaskill questioned whether the process by which the uniforms were procured followed the laws governing the procedure.

    “These failures raise the question of whether or not DOD properly abided by federal procurement law,” McCaskill wrote in her letter, referring to the Pentagon’s inability to justify the wasted expenditure to a congressionally mandated oversight body.

    Last month, John Sopko, the special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction, issued a scathing report saying the Pentagon spent $93 million to purchase 1.3 million uniforms and 88,000 extra pairs of pants with a forest pattern, “without conducting any formal testing to determine the pattern’s effectiveness for use in Afghanistan.”

    The report concluded that, in addition to providing a “more clearly visible target to the enemy,” the uniforms were unnecessarily expensive because they were chosen from a design owned by a private company instead of one of the dozens of designs the Pentagon owns and keeps on file.

    “We had camouflage patterns. Dozens of them. For free,” Sopko said last month.



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    In response to the report, Jedidiah Royal, the acting deputy assistant secretary of defense for Central Asia, wrote a letter to Sopko announcing multiple internal reviews of the uniform procurement process.

    The report came at a time when the Trump administration was looking to ramp up the U.S. military effort in the 16-year-long war. President Donald Trump has given the Pentagon the authority to set troop levels in the country, and it is expected to announce an increase of 3,000 to 4,000 American troops this summer.

    As special inspector, Sopko has ruffled feathers in Washington by pursuing waste far more aggressively than many other inspectors general, uncovering hundreds of millions of dollars of waste over his five-year tenure.

    In 2014, he found that the U.S. had spent $486 million on a fleet of barely used cargo planes, which were eventually sold for scrap metal. The following year, he found that the Pentagon spent $43 million on a single gas station, $36 million on a command-and-control facility that had never been used, and $150 million on private villas and luxury meals for “five to 10 employees” of a development task force. But aid money continues to flow — and the U.S. spends billions per year on aid to the Afghan government, which critics say is deeply corrupt. Some of the aid even ends up in Taliban hands.

    On the uniforms issue, McCaskill demanded that the Pentagon respond to her inquiries by August 4.

    https://theintercept.com/2015/12/03...0m-on-villas-and-3-star-meals-in-afghanistan/
     
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    Pretty much all money spent on war is a waste.
     
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    The college version of "every kid gets a trophy". What till these kids get out of school and see the real world doesn't care if they "feel good" and "feeling good" doesn't help pay the bills (unless your job is a prostitute giving the 'good feelings' but that is not legal here mostly). I guess as long as their parents don't mind them living at home when they are 30 it is not a big deal (this has been on the rise for several years and growing).

    http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9551
     
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    And the difference between a graduation certificate from this uni and toilet paper will be....?
     
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    The difference is toilet paper is actually useful.
     
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    It's not the degree, it's the mindset. "Let's not stress out the kiddos". It seems like every kid these days is on adderall or similar. Many adults are on some type of psych med or anti depressant, etc, because the reality of the world is too much for them. That is not their fault, it is the fault of those who set the trends telling them life should nothing but happiness and conflict free. Some folks really have chemical imbalances and need the pills, but many don't.

    Basically society is being turned into a bunch of weaklings in many respects over time without their knowledge. My linked story is but one small example of that.

    PS One of my past degrees (yes they are worthless) and career choices was in psychology and work in counseling/therapy. I wish I could tell you the stuff I saw. But I won't.
     
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    Sounds fair enough to me.

    ;)
     
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/
     
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    Lee should change his name to something less offensive like Nate Forrest or Jeff Davis...........oops, sorry...nevermind.
     
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