Why this place is becoming the new Switzerland

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  1. boneyard

    boneyard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    April 17, 2013
    Sydney, Australia

    Switzerland is the place that has traditionally stood above all the rest in its reputation for financial stability.

    Why? Because the currency was well-managed, the banking system was sound, and the country had a long tradition of treating capital well.

    Over the last few years, however, these advantages have collapsed.

    Switzerland has voluntarily surrendered banking privacy, and the many Swiss banks are now hemorrhaging cash.

    Even worse, the Swiss government destroyed its reputation for respecting capital when they pegged the Swiss franc to the euro in 2011 to arrest the franc's rapid rise.

    The country's top central banker at the time, Philipp Hildebrand, claimed that he would buy foreign currencies in 'unlimited quantities' to defend the peg.

    This is not something a responsible steward of currency should ever say. The currency peg was nothing more than a form of capital controls... and it effectively screwed anyone that had trusted the Swiss system with their savings.

    Since then, the market's need to find a financial safe haven has only become more desperate. One only needs to look at Cyprus to see why.

    Yet just a small handful of countries inspire confidence in the marketplace. And the most popular seems to be Australia.

    From a macro perspective, Australia is in much better shape than the rest of the bankrupt western hierarchy.

    Though the national budget deficit has been rising over the last few years, Australia's public debt as a percentage of GDP (less than 30%) is a tiny fraction of the US, France, Italy, etc.

    Moreover, as the Australian economy is heavily dependent on resource exports, it's a 'commodity currency', much like Canada. But unlike Canada which is wed to the US, Australia's economy is much more closely tied to Asia's growing dominance.

    Perhaps most importantly, though, Australia is not printing money with wanton abandon like the rest of the world.

    In fact, the RBA's (Australia's central bank) balance sheet has actually been -decreasing-, dropping from A$131 billion to just A$81 billion in 2012.

    This constitutes a 38% decline in central bank assets in five years. By comparison, US Federal Reserve credit has grown 367% over the same period. This is an astonishing difference.

    Plus, Australian interest rates here are typically much higher than in the US, Europe, or Canada. Just holding cash in an Australian bank account can yield over 4% in annual interest. It's sad to say, but this is quite a bit these days...

    (Attendees at our Offshore Tactics Workshop were able to open such accounts on the spot with an Australian bank representative; we'll soon send out information about how you can do this as well...)

    Now, there's really no such thing as a "good" fiat currency. But given such fundamentals, it's easy to see why Australia is replacing Switzerland as a global safe haven.

    I've spent the last few days with some banker friends of mine, and they've been telling me about the surge of foreign capital coming into Australia from Europe, the US, and China.

    But one thing to keep in mind, they reminded me, is that the Australian dollar has a loose correlation with the price of gold. After all, gold is Australia's third biggest export.

    Consequently, we'll likely see a decline in the Aussie dollar if the gold correction continues to play out. This may prove to be a good entry point for individuals to get their money out of the US dollar.


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    Wasn't there another country considered a "Safe Haven", and had a lot of foreign capital? Cyprus?
     
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    This notion that because our debt is less than everyone else, then its ok is ludicrous. Additionally from what officially reported, the reserve banks balance sheet maybe shrinking however the money supply is increasing.
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    +1 Not to mention the "off-balance sheet" debt associated with things like the NBN.
     
  6. hawkeye

    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    I've often found this guy to be careless in his research. He doesn't ever seem to look beyond the surface.

    No mention of the dependence on China. Nor the surge of exports that went there in the last few years which is clearly unsustainable. No mention of the liberties we've lost or that this is a very centralised system and becoming more so as time comes by. No mention of the massive private debt levels or the huge foreign debt that we have.

    No substance whatsoever to his analysis.
     
  7. mmm....shiney!

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    It just shows how fragile the rest of the world's major economies are, we have a boom/bust economy - historically we always have - I wouldn't have thought a boom/bust economy would be called a "safe-haven", but it is compared to the rest. It's a bit like swimming back to your boat at night from shore, you could go slowly and quietly but it takes you 5x as long, or you could go flat out, be in the water for next to no time, but every toothy critter around will know you're there.

    PS: Next thing you know crypto-currencies will be considered a "safe-haven" :lol:
     
  8. hawkeye

    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    I have to admit that this is one of those guys who annoys me. His stuff gets posted around and it's mostly crap imo. He's just some rich jet-setting assh**e looking for somewhere to put his money while he sips cocktails with his superficial rich friends. No substance at all to him.

    Or maybe I'm just in a bad mood...

    Ouch.

    There is no safe haven. Not even Gold. Do you think the people who buy Gold near the top will consider it a safe haven? Did the people who bought in 1980 consider it a safe haven? Thanks to central banks we live in a casino world. Place your bets. :)
     
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    Bitcoin is the new Switzerland
     
  10. Altima

    Altima Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Haha. That was a good read... for a laugh.

    I wouldn't even dare say that Singapore is a safe haven for assets!

    Nowhere is safe! (even *coughbitcoughcoincough*)

    If they want it, they will find a way to get it. Just a matter of time/resources.
     
  11. Yippe-Ki-Ya

    Yippe-Ki-Ya New Member

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    Not to mention that the Aussie banking system is built on a house of cards - the Ponzi Real Estate industry :lol:

    Our banks are f..c..d in the long term
     
  12. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    Me? :rolleyes: ;)
     
  13. hawkeye

    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    Yes, you, that describes you perfectly, doesn't it? :)

    Sorry, went off on a rant...
     
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    Easy, you're talking about my deepest aspirations there.
     
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    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    Sentence 1 (Maybe ;) )
    Sentence 2, second phrase (Tick)
    Sentence 3 (I don't have any friends, official or superficial)
    Sentence 4 (Tick)

    :lol:
     

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