Who broke the law the Cop or the Freeman ?

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  1. gingham69

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    There is a simple way to get through any breath test if you know how and It works no problems but a blood test you can't fool :(
     
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    I am calling bollocks on that part. Care to back that up????
     
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    I would also like to read where you got that from.

    [Offence of failing to provide specimen as required

    (5A) Subject to subsection (5B), if a person required by a police officer under subsection (2) or (2A) to provide a specimen of breath for a breath test, or a specimen of saliva for a saliva test, by the person either

    (a) fails to provide the specimen; or
    (b) fails to provide the specimen in the manner directed by the police officer who makes the requirement;
    the person commits an offence against this Act.

    Maximum penalty40 penalty units or 6 months imprisonment.]

    The "authorised" part comes from the commissioner "authorising" officers to perform certain acts. So pretty much every police officer, once trained and qualified in a certain piece of equipment becomes authorised. It's to stop smart ass legal eagles from shutting down legitimate criminal proceedings because Police Officers weren't trained etc in the apparatus. So if QLD police get a new breath tester, just because they are qualified/trained on the old one doesn't make them authorised to conduct tests with the new machine until they are trained and "authorised" to do so. Which for actual purposes gets delegated down to trainers of trainers who hand out their "qualifications".
     
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    no he has committed an offence and WILL loose his lisence.
     
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    I was just being sarcy on the spelling, liSence hahaha good one :D
     
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    Amazing how many cops don't know the laws they are supposed to be enforcing!!
    In 20 years of being in W.A. I've seen so many Police breaking the law in everyday situations as unfortunately an awful lot think they
    are above it once they put on the uniform and come to think of it even without it!
    Good and bad everywhere you go...part of life. :|
     
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    southerncross Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Anyone heard any more on this, or has it just disappeared ?

    The latest.
    http://www.qt.com.au/news/mans-fight-over-breath-test-refusal-takes-dramatic/3132830/
     
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    answer this and you will answer your on question

    is it after march 3 2017

    remember there are no stupid questions just stuid people
     
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    Of course legal representation can investigate alternative paths to take away or minimise the responsibility of your confessed guilt but they cannot make up fabricated reasons on your behalf to put forward an innocent of crime case if you have admitted to them you committed the crime you have been charged with unless they themselves break the law.

    Many guilty people believe they can admit their guilt to their first contact Barrister and then their legal representation is able to devise a not guilty scenario with them to present in court as defence in an effort to protect the guilty client from prosecution of admitted guilt,this is also against the law.

    The first thing a Barrister tells you is "you must tell me the truth as I can only defend you with what you tell me" or "Do not tell me anything until I have investigated the charges against you"

    Dont lie to arresting officers then tell the truth to your legal representation which is what happens in so many cases that result in a justifiable guilty verdict as it should.

    If you are innocent then still say nothing other than what is required by law because "anything" you say can or will be used against you in a court of law but anything you do not say "cannot" be used against you in a court of law. Refusing to answer questions "can" be used against you in a court of law but answering questions with your "Right" of refusal to answer a question presented through fear of incrimination or on legal advise "cannot" be used against you in a court of law.
     
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    Aside: The NSW so-called Liberal government abolished the right to silence in 2013 because duck-nuts Greg Smith wanted to look "tough on crime" and couldn't be arsed better resourcing for police to mount cases.
     
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    And none so blind as those who will not see. ( Note the edit time ? )
     
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    ^^ no idea what happened, though there is two potential outcomes, looney bin or fined/charged (depending if the judge is in a humourous mood or not)
     
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    Couldn't be bothered watching the vid, after ten seconds. realised he lost, so turned off. Besides would you take advice from a loser?
     
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