Where I am at now............

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  1. boneyard

    boneyard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hope all are well.

    Been putting sometime on the following website & forum.

    http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org

    Finding out how BB are screwing us with dodgy fees & taxes and how to reclaim our soverign rights.

    have you heard of " accepted for value"?

    And other concepts that give us power with our rights?

    Having a good fight with local water supplier with the power that that we have as humans.

    I urge you to visit this site for some empowering words & join the forum.

    Comments?????

    http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=37188
     
  2. trew

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    So you expect water to be provided to your property free of charge ?
     
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    Sovereign rights?
    We are all subjects of Her Majesty.
    We have no Bill of Rights.
    The right of free speech is tenuous and only implied.
    What is this fiction of sovereignty that you speak of?
     
  4. Rothbard

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    My wife and I are starting to study law in sept For the main purpose of understanding the system better and how this stuff applies to Australia.

    To date no one has shown me someone who has successfully beaten the banks etc
     
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    hiho Active Member Silver Stacker

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    dont fight it, work it
     
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    To be fair it's not a service you can opt out of
     
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    mikedm New Member

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    Ask lots of questions of the lecturers/tutors. You don't get taught the loop holes in law school, you get taught them in practice.
     
  8. Rothbard

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    There seems to be much grey area

    Like no one can explain what a bonded account is and how a creditor is paid from it.

    Also, the talk of becoming a teller for the bank of England by decree of the postmaster.

    Also, how is it creditors know how to process these letters? If there is no written information on what these things are,how does its young underpaid legal team handle it?
     
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    My guess is they freak out and move onto an easier fish to catch. You definitely don't learn any of that or anything procedural in law school. Mainly theory and legislative interpretation. I learned a lot more about trust law listening to Dean Clifford than I did in an Equity law course. However, I do tend to take his info with a grain of salt and personally would not apply it.
     
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    boston Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yes you can, provided the supplier is a registered private company, even if government owned.
     
  11. Jislizard

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    Nice website, looks like you put a lot of work into it!

    I am torn!

    On the one hand, I think the banking system is corrupt and I tend to side with the underdog in any David and Goliath struggle.

    On the other hand I believe in personal responsibility, if people lived within their means they would not be in this position (speaking as one who spent most of their 20s in $50,000 debt).

    What demographic are your members? Do you know how most of them got into such debt crisis?
     
  12. boneyard

    boneyard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    THIS.........
    I enjoy learning this stuff & have spoken to head of accounts @ my water supplier & asked/told him to do some research on "Accepted for value" & reply to via via email.

    looking forward to his reply.

    The next thing I will be looking @ is "Promissory Notes".
    Send them one & if they send it back, they have declined my payment.

    If you don't try,you don't learn.

    http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=140
     
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    Jislizard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    OK, makes sense, lots of UK content!
     
  14. Rothbard

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    From my observation the demographic are typical "Victim mentality" no-hopers looking for a free ride.

    One video showing some information is narrated by a shirtless pom who doesn't even know what many of the terms in the document mean, however tries to convince the reader of its meaning...

    If one cannot translate legalese then they should not be relied upon to translate a legal document reliably!

    And if you want to have some level of credibility - atleast wear a shirt.

    If a Barister, experienced lawyer, judge or QC were to comment on the validity then I would be more inclined to take immediate action - however I feel that I must become a thorough expert first before believing shirtless hippies.
     
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    if it helps, I have just downloaded all of these books to my ipad via Amazon for $3 each!

    http://theclassifiedfiles.com/

    this guy is Australian and has been researching the Strawman illusion for the past 20 years.

    I look forward to applying what is in these books to legal studies provided by the Board of Law...
     
  16. boneyard

    boneyard Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    More info..............
    Makes for interesrting reading.......

    on-Negotiable

    mmmmmm mmmm of the family: oooooooo Authorised Representative for
    Mmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm ooooooooooooo and all derivatives thereof.

    C/o 55 xxxxxxxxx xx
    XXXXXXXX
    XXXXXX
    Near POST CODE

    Bryan Carter Interlopers

    11 DeHavilland Drive

    Weybridge

    Surrey

    KT13 0NT

    January 28th 2012


    Reference Number: your letter dated 20/1/2012

    Dear Interloper

    Your Letter is Enclosed/Returned.

    As YOU are an external third party in this matter acting WITHOUT authority, WE DO NOT and HAVE NEVER given YOU or the Company that YOU represent our personal permission to interfere in our commercial affairs therefore YOU have NO legal standing. We do not have a contract and any permission that YOU believe you may have from us is hereby withdrawn. If you believe you have the power of attorney or any authority to act on our behalf, you are hereby fired, and any consent that you think you may have, tacit or otherwise, is herby withdrawn.
    We are now formally requesting that you cease all correspondence including but not limited to; letters, phone calls, email and text messaging.
    We have become familiar with the terms of Administration of Justice Act 1965 and the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and believe, should you continue in contacting me or us after this request for you to cease your activity, that you will be guilty of HARASSMENT and BLACKMAIL and you will be in breach of these acts and you will be reported to the relevant authorities.
    Finally, you DO NOT, nor have you EVER had, my personal permission to use or process my personal data in any way and so pursuant to the DATA PROTECTION ACT 1998/2003, we hereby demand that you cease use of any and all data with regard to me and my person and that you immediately destroy all of our data held on your records. Failure to do so will result in a report being submitted to the DATA PROTECTION COMMISSIONER for Data Protection Breaches.
    You will be deemed to have been served notice of our request and we will deem it served seven (7) days from the date of this letter which has been sent recorded delivery. We are advising you that any communication from you including but not limited to letters, phone calls and texts received after this date will be recorded and noted with the intention of them being used as evidence.
    Furthermore take notice that in the absence of a satisfactory response to the above within the time frame given we will be making a formal complaint to the Law Society and any Solicitors Regulation Authority.
    (copies of all correspondence will be collated and used in evidence in court for the question of costs) Do not Contact me Again.

    Note. IF ANY FURTHER CONTACT FROM YOU or YOUR COMPANY, YOU AGREE TO the following fee schedule
    1,000.00 per hour or part of it of authorised representatives time nunc pro tunc,
    1,000.00 per recorded delivery or any other response nunc pro tunc and
    1,000,000.00 ONE MILLION POUNDS per unauthorised use of or nunc pro tunc, and you will also be held culpable for any cost incurred while recovering the debt you

    Yours sincerely

    By: Sovereign mmmmmm mmmm of the family: oooooooooooooo




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    http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=28947

    Comments???
    PS anyone want to registered a certain company on ASIC for me?
    There is a new gov body in Tas that will go to parilment next year and they have not registered the name.
    willing to front the $400-$500 fee to stick it to them for the slackness of not registing the new company name with ASIC.
    Please PM me with your interests.
    https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch


    Collapse Business Name Summary
    Business Name Summary



    Name: SILVER STACKERS
    Registration number: B2385548U
    State of registration: Victoria
    Registration date: 29/06/2011

    Status: Registered
    Company Type: Business Names
    Principal place of business:
    Regulator: Office of Fair Trading & Business Affairs,Victoria

    A good website for checking business names................
     
  17. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Learn the law: Watch this series.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHP6aqk7mQE[/youtube]
     
  18. trew

    trew Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I think the website name says it all, doesn't it ?

    Take on a debt and then get out of it - for free.
    The author of the site even boasts of having done it multiple times - which must mean taking on a debt knowing in advance you plan to screw the other party over and not pay it back.

    Sorry but I believe in treating others the way I wish them to treat me - what goes around comes around.

    If you want to get out of debt then pay whatever debt you have off.
    Better still, don't go into debt in the first place if you don't believe in it.
     
  19. boston

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    A Trade Mark registration has much more legal standing, globally recognised and overrides a business/company name by a long shot.
     
  20. trew

    trew Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Sure you can. Turn your water off at the mains and install a great big water tank (or a dam if you have enough land).
    There are many people living in the country that don't have mains water.

    Water itself is free - it falls from the sky. Any water that falls on your land is yours to capture and use, for free.
    If you happen to have a stream running through your property then you can use that water for free as well (well in most cases).

    But if the water you want to use is in a reservoir far away from your property, it has to get to you via pipes etc. that somebody has to install and maintain.
    Obviously that costs money and somebody has to pay for that service.
     

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