What else besides PM's can become sought after when the crisis hits

Hi all! This seems to be an appropriate section to post my topic. I'm wondering what else besides PM's could become very sought after when the piblic realizes the good times are definately over and the world is in a big crisis. Of course essentials like food and energy will always be in demand, but I'm interested in things that are not mainstream now, like PM stacking, because the smaller the market now, the easier to get into it. I'm thinking stuff for growing your own food, stuff for getting off the grid etc. what else?

Thanks.

 

Hello quarterounce, welcome to the forum.
Toilet paper, it doesn't go off, you can light fires, roll it down hills, play hansel and gretel or even use it as intended. You just need to keep it dry.
I think you should become the toilet paper king.

 

I already am and want to diversify.

 

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-53411-what-else-is-there.html

 

Lead, Copper, Brass and Smokeless usually go off with a bang...



Don't forget to stack large amounts of primers and powder...

 

Chlorine ... the gene pool needs LOTS of it ........

 

Food primarily. medicines, even asthma puffers and the like. Then tobacco, coffee & alcohol people will still have addictions to feed, I know I would trade 1/10 oz silver for a good coffee, after that you have amassed the wealth to raise an army then we'll obviously Moon!!

 

I own a lot of lead.

Very useful if you want to catch some fish. I would imagine them being useful in a collapse if people want to fish from the shore =D.

Slam

 

It occurs to me at times most people are from the shallow end of the gene pool :

 

dont forget the molds etc to make the sinkers. All the REAL gear that you would actually need will be priceless if it ever occurs . I have made my own sinkers for years from wheel weights or lead flashing i got at the recyclers .Im shocked at how expensive sinkers are to buy from a shop .

 

lots of lead in car batteries ....

 

Actually I found it cheaper to import the wholly made sinkers from china. I own alot of grapnel sinkers, with retractable legs on them. Can be used for beach fishing, fishing off wharfs and rocks. Playing with lead is quite dangerous, the fumes and stuff. I try to avoid it where I can.

I also agree tools are invaluable, I own alot of quality tools that allows me to make a good range of things from sliding rigs (stainless steel) to fishing rod building. I think knowledge and having a few tricks up your sleeve to become self sufficient would be a plus.

BTW, the AUD has tanked, it will cost me more to import the same batch of sinkers. I probably should increase my prices as it will cost me more to replace them. Interesting that I can play the exchange rate buying sinkers lol.

Slam

 

Arable, defensible land. Tools and seed to work the earth. Spices, salt, vinegar and glassware to preserve food for winter. Bellows, hammer and anvil. Books. Skills such as glass working, carpentry, construction, and the hand tools to do it. Copper wire, magnets, and the knowledge of how this can produce electricity.

Most importantly of all, the loyalty of a few strong and intelligent people.

 

As fuel becomes scarcer the prices of imported items will be rising. I am planting a few easy-to-grow non essentials. None of these will be worth burning my house down or attacking me for but all will provide a few luxuries which can be sold locally throughout the whole year.

We are on a small plot, about 500 square metres max and that includes the house and patio area.

Many of these are in pots or around the edge of the garden.

With any luck sunlight and rain water will still be the only thing you can get free in Australia so other than keeping the bugs down and keeping the feed up it should be a fairly cheap enterprise.

Vanilla
grapes
Chocolate
Coffee
Tea
Turmeric
Garlic
Ginger
Clove tree
Cinnamon tree
Bay Tree
Peppercorn
Cardamon
Chili peppers
Lavender
Fig trees
Olive trees
Lemon Tree
Kumquat tree
Orange tree
Lime tree
Pink Grapefruit tree
Mandarin tree
Blood orange tree
Chestnut tree
Moringa tree
Allspice tree
Avocado tree (waste of space)
All the usual herbs that everyone has
Some of the leaf vegetables that the caterpillars haven't beaten us to
Plenty of the obscure herbs than no one has because they don't taste very nice
Capsicums

The trees should be in full production within the next six years, I save the seeds each year and raise my own seedlings, we compost all the organic waste we bring into the house as well as anything from the garden, we collect rainwater and there is a market stall which will trade my plants for theirs, which is handy.

Not a 100% survival plan in itself but part of the overall scheme, I read somewhere that you need 15 olive trees to provide all the eating olives and oil for one family, however one lime tree gives us all the limes we need for a year but I think I will need to knock the street down to provide all the coffee beans we need for a year, we have one bush so maybe we can each get a cup for Christmas.

By planting trees you cut down on a lot of the workload associated with tending gardens, saves replanting seeds every year and they are less susceptible to being stolen.

 

If you are talking about a proper SHTF currency/economic crises then the best things to have would be 'stuff' like lighters, alcohol, food, tobacco , water, candles, batteries, spam, etc

 

Medical supplies as well as someone with the skills to use them effectively.

 

$1.80 in 10 cent pieces

 

this topic has been done to death here,

in a true SHTF crisis silver / gold wont be worth anything, and will be more of a hindrance trying to lug around with you.

 

Well i think a severe economic depression and collapse of some fiat currencies, stock markets, bonds are inevitable.

However i dont foresee an apocalypse where everything will be wiped out. Just look at history, plenty of nations had depressions and hyperinflation, but it didnt send them back to the stone age.

 

booze and smokes. just make sure you're not an alcoholic or chain smoker.