WARNING: The ABS lied about not tracking individuals with census data

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  1. SpacePete

    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The promise to destroy names was not upheld. The fundamental concept of a census being about population statistics rather than being an Orwellian population tracking system no longer holds true. They have retained names and linkages, and "and without asking for consent, the Bureau has been tracking five per cent of the population (more than one million people)." With the next census they are looking at retaining 100% of people's names.

     
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    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    If this is true it is a textbook case of malfeasance of the highest order.
     
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    Who in there right mind would tell the government anything, just bin it
     
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    The KGB always lies to the peasants, who believe all that is said to them.

    As a long time genealogist I know how important the census is to accurate data collection and verification, but Big Brother IS watching. NEVER believe them.

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    and,

    In Ireland during "the troubles" in 1922 the IRA knew how important the BDMs were, and so they burnt the Law Courts where they were stored. Irish research is now almost impossible before that date.

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    There was an option with the last census to allow name retention and release after a 99 year period. People seemed happy with this and it might help future generations and our descendants learn something about us. However, the shift to tracking of living individuals without their consent will undermine this.

    From the ABS:
     
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    I can only assume that the data released by the ABS cannot be trusted now. They seem quite willing to lie to the public.
     
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    We should question their budget, and especially the money being spent on the census if it is no longer providing value to the taxpayer. We don't need them to become a quasi-intelligence agency.
     
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    As a recent immigrant I hope I wasn't one of the lucky ones chosen for the longitudional study as I think this might interrupt their dataset on me and my wife.

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    Source: Dictionary.com
     
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    They've certainly damaged public trust, and this will compromise the quality of census data as people may be tempted to fill in false information or simply skip it. We are paying for this too.
     
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    Trouble is ALL(?) of the governments computers talk to each other, and AFAIK it is a simple matter to create a dossier on anyone.

    I know from personal experience that the DSS can fire up a persons bank account and question any entry they wish, with me at the other end of the phone call.

    Also that DSS and immigration directly share data on individuals.

    I have been told that Tax, Health department and so on do the same.

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    Thank you Jislizard. I have now made my copy and will be using it as my defence for not filling out the form.
     
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    I'm never at home on census night...NEVER!!
     
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    I doubt very much that we will have much of a civilised society in 99 years.

    JMO


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    Well, looks like I'll be writing a rude note on my form.

    Somebody in the tried removing the "Religion" field from the UK census (either the last one or the one before) and their census people stopped it on the reasoning that hundreds of thousands of people who would normally ignore the census instead completed it just so they could write Jedi Knight as their religion and that improved the quality of the rest of the data.
     
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    Try coming into the Sydney CBD every day and you'd revise that estimate. There's very little civilised behaviour amongst the growing numbers of aggressive and criminal scum that find this shithole so welcoming.
     
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    ^ well said! :D
     
  19. Shaddam IV

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    where were you on Census night, we did not get a form?

    I was out chasing Pokemon all night.
     
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    No visa needed for Tokyo either but I bet they can do an audit of people being out of the country using them fancy new smart passports.
     

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