War is comming

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  1. Court Jester

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    Careful what you wish for. A lot of people seem to wish the Americans were not as powerful or were not around.

    I'd rather have an American world policeman than a Russian or Chinese.
     
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    War is always on the cards when financial collapse is inevitable.
     
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    Not sure why all the huff and puff over claiming these Islands, Japs invaded China, slaughtered them without mercy and got their arse well and truly kicked at the end of WW2, so they have no claim to sweet F-all and should be glad they have any dang land at all.

    If China, teamed up with the Russians, there's going to be one dang shite-fight and Putin really wouldn't give a dang.
     
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    Death to America?
    Careful what you wish for stupid, Australia is on the side of America in case you didn't know.
    God
     
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    Death to America?
    The same country that saved us from invasion in WW2 while all others abandoned us alone in the Pacific?
     
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    In this case it's not Japan but Vietnamese, Taiwan, Malaysia and the Philippines who are concerned. Take a look at the map of the area recently claimed by China, and the location of the island projects. Then consider also that China is considering establishing an air defense identification zone over the entire area which would require nations to notify the Chinese military if they were flying through there.

    And remember it wasn't too long ago that China mowed down Vietnamese in the area with machine guns so those smaller nations are on edge.

    Really, the map says it all:

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    Spratly Islands Massacre:

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    The US in a dispute with China over islands in the South China Sea and the US is thousands of miles away? The US not only thinks it's self appointed world police but also thinks it owns the world too.

    The downfall of the US can only be a good thing for world peace. Hopefully it happens economically and not through a world war.

    Economic death to America! :D



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    You dunk or something?

    You think a war will be a bit of fun? What's with the hating the yanks so much anyway? You were not born in Australia so why are you so into this shite?

    You sound like some cranked up north Korean.

    Their will be no war over this because China cannot transport troops to either Japan or Australia. Simple as. Either way you would loose your money. Russia is a paper tiger that never completed the military reforms started in 2008 and has a second rate mostly conscript army. China has fairly trivial naval and air power and again an army that is more amateur than professional.

    1000 professionals in an urban op can stop a full style soviet doctrine assault by 20 regiments if they want to even without air or arty support. The old commie system of sending confused conscripts to engage professionals has never been worth a shite and it was not worth a shite when the yanks tried it in Vietnam either.




    One way or the other I hope you post-commie nutjobs all sign up for your glorious 'war' so that young men don't have to be conscripted to go in the place of chickenhawks like you lot.

    Further if there was a war since you have made your feelings so clear regarding the lives of the Aussie troops you would deservedly spend the duration of it in a cage and if there was any justice of common sense be deported to these countries you give your loyalty to instead of the one you live in.
     
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    China will kill some Vietnamese to make a point that they are all big and tough and in five years everyone will have forgotten about it except the relatives of the dead.
     
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    Vietnamese propaganda.
     
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    But shows that the Chinese don't hold back.
     
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    If China tried projecting power towards Japan or Australia and actually kills service men or women the reaction would be simple. The Pacific is about carrier power. Without carrier power you can't move troop transports.

    The US has 11 carrier battle groups.
    Italy has 2
    France Spain and Thailand have one each.

    Russia currently has one aging carrier built in the 80s, China has a second hand junk Ukrainian carrier that they are still trying to try and figure out how to take off and land on.

    So if the US committed just *half* of its naval power to the pacific in effect China and ahem (Russia - as if ) would roll out their relics and get them sunk. At which point fixed immovable point defences like reef islands would be trying to fight moving targets. See how that worked out for Midway which was a lot bigger.

    Meanwhile Russia would probably be facing the full on wrath of Nato, a 50 country alliance with manpower and military resources which utterly dwarf Russias second rate mostly conscript military.

    Further you can sleep tight knowing that even if some lunatic in Russia tries to go Nuclear the utterly subverted and espionage to shite Russian missile forces would probably be more of a danger to their own citizens than anyone else.

    There will be no new war in the Pacific except the new hawk oligarch in China murdering a few Vietnamese (Why does everyone always murder viernamese??!!) to make a point for their domestic audience that they are so macho.

    I can see why Russia needs to preach to it's domestic audience that it is all big in tough when in fact it is a military sick man barely capable of projecting power into Ukraine let alone Berlin, Warsaw or Paris. Only a moron would think that there is any balls to it.

    You don't want to see all the weapons that have yet to be deployed rolling out - just as gulf war one was an eye opener you can expect drones with lasers frying obsolete Chinese frigates for 10 days followed by a thoughtful pause from the Chinese hawks and a note saying very sorry. Not that I think the new Chinese hawk oligarchy is actually dumb as rocks and wishes to throw away their newly gained thrones and reduce China to the state it was in after the boxer rebellion again.
     
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    Maybe he's joking I don't think the Jester has really given this much serious thought.
     
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    It doesn't mean we (Australians) have to like the evil machinations and wars America starts in it's pursuit of greed and world domination.

    Do we thank America if it selfishly starts a world war and there are nukes falling in OZ because of our stupid alliance with US? Is that really a good alliance?

    Australia should be neutral like Switzerland who avoided world war 2 because it was neutral.
     
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    yes abbot needs to get obumers c0ck out of his mouth and tell him to fcuk off
     
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    In this case I was referring to intimidation of much weaker opponents, and I imagine any future shooting of Vietnamese on the islands will be accompanied by a flood of propaganda to justify the action and to make it easy for politicians in countries like Australia to weasel out of making any strong statement against China.

    I agree China is no match even for a very small subset of the US military.
     

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