Very Smart Man Speaks

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  1. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Economics, war, gold and SHTF, Ebola, inverted totalitarianism.

    Well worth a look, courtesy of USAwatchdog.com


    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6XoMNMDlQc#t=1244[/youtube]
     
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    Thanks and bump.
     
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    Adding my support to this. Watch it.

    Good to hear someone discussing our inverted totalitarian society, (something which applies increasingly in Australia too):
    There is also some other very good discussion. A couple of things I got from it:

    * The government is driven to maintain the status quo. Real change is impossible due to the momentum of the status quo and the fundamental inflexibility of totalitarianism.

    * The media is controlled by 4-5 corporations which frame the news.

    * We are being programmed by the media which shapes our responses to things such as ebola. This is used to drive spending on government programs and in other areas.

    * Its all about aimless consumerism, generating useless short-term information, and shaping our responses so we spend and consume. This is a fundamental aspect of inverted totalitarianism.

    * Innovation is crushed.

    * Population explosion when we discovered how to utilise energy dense forms of energy.

    * Everything is going exponential... becoming VERY fragile now.

    * Have a big stack of $20s ready in case of a disaster (and some gold for transportable value.)
     
  4. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    And have a plan for what you can carry on your back if you need to relocate thusly.
     
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    My summary: US foreign policy is about keeping the price of oil from collapsing...Middle East conflict is about keeping sources of oil off the market...Posturing against Russia is about keeping its oil off the market...USA and Japan are aligned against China and Russia will join against China too...and...It's the end of the world as we know it in the next 2 years and it will be very scary if you aren't prepared...you can be a monk or a martyr, better off a monk and disconnect from the world than be a martyr hanging around trying to convince people to prepare for the end of the world.

    Frankly I've had more than enough of the doomsayers. Sure it makes sense to be prepared for an interruption in supply, but does it make sense to live in fear of a total collapse of society? I don't think so. It's just disaster porn that seduces the vulnerable, those sensitive and aware of the changes underway, to give into their fear and fuel delusional fantasies of heroism in saving others by perpetuating fear in those around you.

    I've been hearing the same warnings since the end of the 1990's, in fact I recall fearing global annihilation in the 1980's with the MAD policies of the US and USSR and it's probably been going on forever.

    His description of inverted totalitarianism was interesting though and does reflect exactly the reality of the control structures in place and why any call for government action, including calls by the global warming lobby, will only ever result in corrupted outcomes that oppose the interests of the population at large and favour those of the crony elite and their dependants.

    Your end will come sure enough, but when it does, no amount of material preparation is going to help you one bit and you sure as heck will not be taking a stack of anything with you.
     
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    He contradicted himself and I stopped listening. First, there is plenty of oil left, next our carbon based lifestyle is ending. Can't have it both ways, unless you are a consultant.
     
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    I believe he said it was under the oceans. Good luck getting it affordably.
     
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    I believe he said oil was still available in two places, one being offshore. We have been drilling offshore for decades and they seem to be profiting. Oil being higher priced and oil not being available are two separate issues.
     
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    Thanks, its been several hours now since I listened to it so I'm probably wrong on what he said.
     
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    I could be wrong too, but I know there was what I felt was a huge contradiction and I stopped listening. More importantly, I wasn't learning anything new. If the interviewee had been Lauren Lyster, I would watched the entire video. :)
     
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    Still relevant? I think so.
     
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    From an entertaining philosophy series using an 8 bit game aesthetic:

    Can We Trust the Media?

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RwhEHzuulA[/youtube]
     
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    And another good one: Do We Crave Fascism?

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57RhO4ByhcA[/youtube]
     
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    I disagree with the intent of these premises.

    Consumerism ie consumer demand drives innovation and production. The masses "own" the direction that corporations take as the corporations risk capital for market share and profit and as a result play no part in any inverted totalitarian state.
     
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    I believe him on the point of having a stack of $20,s on the ready to last up to 4 weeks, look closely in the background at the strategically placed in full view "Menorah" thats not quite a Menorah! this is a real signal to all Jewish watchers and nobody knows finance and value of preserving wealth like the worlds Jewish community.

    $4000 cash minimum!
     
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    It goes both ways, and some in marketing may believe it is the complete opposite. The field of marketing has a rich and colourful history in this area and I believe that 20th century politicians may even have borrowed many of the techniques developed by the private sector to engineer and manipulate consumer psychology.

    The man referred to as the father of marketing psychology (and one of the 20th century's most influential men according to Time), said:

    Its hard to know where to start on all of this. There is so much info out there.
     
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    I'm not a fan of the theory that marketing dictates consumption therefore the production of goods. I think that school of thought has grown out of the anti-capitalist mentality prevalent in the 19thC (that's just a stab in the dark), thanks Karl. To me marketing is the realisation that consumers call the shots, and because companies have to compete with each other in order to attract consumers in order to be profitable the companies with the best marketing campaigns are the ones that attract the most consumers. Now there's no denying that fashion and desire can be shaped by marketing, but it's still the consumer that makes the ultimate decision. That's the beauty of capitalism.

    Same with politics I suppose, consumers have pre-conceived ideas and politicians attempt to attract votes by giving these consumers what they want eg Malcolm Turnbull would be a shoe-in at the next election if he just adopted one simple policy - "No Syrians". It'd be divisive but he'd be delivered a mandate.
     
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    Actually it is fundamentally capitalistic. Not sure where you get the idea that it isn't... maybe from socialist/leftist arguments?

    It's been referred to, somewhat disparagingly I think, as Corporate Propaganda:
     
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    The point I was trying to make is that consumers are the owners of the capitalist system.
     
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    When I'm elected dictator, I will ban all advertising. It is that which makes people dissatisfied with what they have, envious of their fellows and pushes them towards greed.
     

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