vaccination is on the table again

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  1. alor

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    I bet no one actually knows the test results and what had been the vaccines been tested for :)

    I just want to be totally protected from any possible law suits when selling substances to believers and pocketing the profits, so long as not killing anyone immediately, company is for profits and so is drugs selling.

    Polio was a good one, but this new strain has got nothing to do with it.

    If the sun is so good, then keep looking at it, until all turn dark, and go blind.
     
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    Posted on news.com yesterday April 28 2015, 4:58pm.
    Posted without comment:

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/abbotts-u-turn-on-vaccines/story-fneuzlbd-1227325080810


    THE Prime Minister is cracking down on anti-vaxxers, insisting that all parents who don't have their children immunised should be denied welfare payments.

    But in November 2006, Tony Abbott's attitude was vastly different. The then-Health Minister said he "wouldn't be rushing out to get his daughters vaccinated" against cervical cancer.

    "Maybe that's because I'm a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard but, look, I won't be," Mr Abbott told Southern Cross radio.


    Mr Abbott's comments came as the Pharmaceutical Benefit Advisory Committee (PBAC) knocked back an application from Australian manufacturer CSL to make the Gardasil vaccine available free to all females aged 12 to 26.

    Gardasil halts the spread of sexually-transmitted human papilloma virus (HPV), which causes 70 per cent of cervical cancers. It was developed by Australian Ian Frazer, who was recently shortlisted for the European Inventor Award 2015 for saving countless lives with his discovery.

    The former Health Minister's previous comments on the vaccine were highlighted this week by blogger Jon Rapport. "How revealing," wrote Rapport. "Tony Abbott, a vaccine refuser."

    Liberal Senator Jeannie Ferris, who was recovering from ovarian cancer at the time, was fiercely critical of his stance. "How embarrassing that our country is the one that is not going to vaccinate its daughters," she said. "I have to say I am very disappointed with the decision because the average family might have two daughters and is looking at almost $1000 to decide to give their children lifetime protection. And who doesn't want to do that?


    "I am optimistic that commonsense will prevail. Put a price on somebody's mother, somebody's sister, somebody's wife $400 I don't think so."

    Mr Abbott's then-counterpart, Julia Gillard, told ABC Radio at the time: "The PBAC's principle reason, as I understand it, was the cost of this vaccine. That's pretty short-sighted when we know that this vaccine is going to cut cervical cancer by 70 per cent."

    Then-Queensland Deputy Premier Anna Bligh said the decision was ridiculous. "They should immediately reconsider it, and frankly the Health Minister Tony Abbott, in all conscience, has to intervene."

    Twenty days later, Mr Abbott asked PBAC to consider a new submission from CSL with more information and at a lower price "given the possibility of introducing an immunisation program through schools in 2007".

    In April 2007, Gardasil was made available free to girls aged 12-13 as part of the National Immunisation Program. In February 2013, it was also made available to boys aged 12-13.

    But it was not a priority for Mr Abbott in early November 2006.

    "The program is what the experts think clearly is absolutely necessary, and at the moment the experts don't think this is absolutely necessary," he said.
     
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    Truth and Gardasil: Interview with Dr Deirdre Little
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBs6BD-Ec44[/youtube]
     
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    I appreciate the investigative research of this doctor who has the ticker to highlight what needs to be openly discussed by raising relevant facts.

    Without full and open disclosure there is a problem right there - alarm bells should be going off.

    The science backing up the benefits of this particular vaccine are questionable with studies conducted of limited scope that fails to validate long term affects and previous indicatives have significantly reduced the need for its application.

    I am thinking why would boys need to be administered such a vaccine as well? For cervical cancer?
     
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    Reposted

    Posted on news.com yesterday April 28 2015, 4:58pm.
    Posted without comment:

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health 7325080810


    THE Prime Minister is cracking down on anti-vaxxers, insisting that all parents who don't have their children immunised should be denied welfare payments.

    But in November 2006, Tony Abbott's attitude was vastly different. The then-Health Minister said he "wouldn't be rushing out to get his daughters vaccinated" against cervical cancer.

    "Maybe that's because I'm a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard but, look, I won't be," Mr Abbott told Southern Cross radio.


    Mr Abbott's comments came as the Pharmaceutical Benefit Advisory Committee (PBAC) knocked back an application from Australian manufacturer CSL to make the Gardasil vaccine available free to all females aged 12 to 26.

    Gardasil halts the spread of sexually-transmitted human papilloma virus (HPV), which causes 70 per cent of cervical cancers. It was developed by Australian Ian Frazer, who was recently shortlisted for the European Inventor Award 2015 for saving countless lives with his discovery.

    The former Health Minister's previous comments on the vaccine were highlighted this week by blogger Jon Rapport. "How revealing," wrote Rapport. "Tony Abbott, a vaccine refuser."

    Liberal Senator Jeannie Ferris, who was recovering from ovarian cancer at the time, was fiercely critical of his stance. "How embarrassing that our country is the one that is not going to vaccinate its daughters," she said. "I have to say I am very disappointed with the decision because the average family might have two daughters and is looking at almost $1000 to decide to give their children lifetime protection. And who doesn't want to do that?


    "I am optimistic that commonsense will prevail. Put a price on somebody's mother, somebody's sister, somebody's wife $400 I don't think so."

    Mr Abbott's then-counterpart, Julia Gillard, told ABC Radio at the time: "The PBAC's principle reason, as I understand it, was the cost of this vaccine. That's pretty short-sighted when we know that this vaccine is going to cut cervical cancer by 70 per cent."

    Then-Queensland Deputy Premier Anna Bligh said the decision was ridiculous. "They should immediately reconsider it, and frankly the Health Minister Tony Abbott, in all conscience, has to intervene."

    Twenty days later, Mr Abbott asked PBAC to consider a new submission from CSL with more information and at a lower price "given the possibility of introducing an immunisation program through schools in 2007".

    In April 2007, Gardasil was made available free to girls aged 12-13 as part of the National Immunisation Program. In February 2013, it was also made available to boys aged 12-13.

    But it was not a priority for Mr Abbott in early November 2006.

    "The program is what the experts think clearly is absolutely necessary, and at the moment the experts don't think this is absolutely necessary," he said.
     
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    "The program is what the experts think clearly is absolutely necessary, and at the moment the experts don't think this is absolutely necessary," he said.

    Ide like to know exactly who these experts are? It appears that come and go like pixy dust whenever it suites.

    Ok experts, step forward and present yourselves, who exactly are you?

    Do they even exist at all?
     
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    really love this one !!!

    this must be done to prevent boys from passing it to the girls, if the boys have been vacuumed out, there is no cancerous left to pass it on :lol:
     
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    Multinational Pharmaceutical Companies of course wants all Australians to be healthy at their own cost.
    Vaccination can be saving lives as they claim they can cure cancer by Orthodox medicine and fail over and over again.
    How many people around us died because of cancer? Which they are treating with doctors nurses a lot of chemicals non organic food more chemotherapy and radiation? They are all good for us since government gives us in hospitals right? I dont think so. Vaccination again another way of mass money making scheme by those greedy companies and government tell POOR they will get no benefits from Centrelink if theirs kids dont get vaccinate... What about RICH? Why so caring government isnt saying anyone and everyone will lose ALL BENEFITS including CENTRELINK, TAX RETURNS, NEGATIVE GEARING etc etc? Do you realize they are just scaring the needy the masses. This alone makes me suspicious of uselessness of this vaccination. I had a swine flu shot, what a joke, they ve created that virus so they can make money by selling vaccination. It was a free shot but not so free since medicare isnt subsidised by anyone else but us all Australians...

    Cut all benefits to be fair or dont threaten poor people just because you can.
     
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    Humm written by a strategic risk analyst who specialises in oil and political management. Load of crap.

    In his first paragraph he says polio is not a virus. Just google polio virus image. Looks like a virus to me.

    Wait there it is, rocker fella has to be involved somewhere oh and yup eugenics in too.

    Classic nut job. Wow we even link in terrorists and jihad. Did you read this article? Did it sound plausable?
     
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    Movie plot anyone?
     
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    I can get a real shooter to try a new hand gun, he will surely missed, but it hurts real bad with the bang! sound.

    chances is, someone may have a heart failure :) there is low probabilities that a death may come upon. :lol:
     
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