vaccination is on the table again

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  1. serial

    serial Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    What bs, typical scare mongering presentation of sketchy causative medical science as evidence of vaccinations being lethal when the cause of the child's death is actually complications from treatment for a mumps infection he had obviously contracted pre immunisation most likely from one of the mothers friends who hadn't vaccinated their child/children. I would even go so far as to say that same friend/group of friends bullied her to resist the vaccination and then sue.
    Fact is the child died from a preventable disease that the vaccination is trying to wipe out. But like ideal the anti vaccination brigade will use the unfortunate death of a child to further their cause by twisting the facts to suit their point of view.
     
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    they are not forcing it on you, they are simply removing government support if you don't follow the rules. if you want the money you "earn" it. you can continue to choose to not get your kids immunised just don't whinge about not getting paid by the government.
    Its a bit like someone on the dole complaining that they have to look for a job to get the Newstart allowance.

    That is a bit like the Jizya, or protection money, you do what we say and we will pay you.......
    Vaccination can be a good thing, it is what is put in the vaccination that is a problem, and can those who force/lead us to be vaccination be trusted????
    Like the Fluoride - I don't want brittle bones, Dull thinking, a submissiveness against my will.
    Hitler was the first to experiment with fluoride.
    Before you all jump and say it is good for your teeth - there is a big difference between tetra hydro-carbine fluoride and organic fluoride.
    Another bait and switch job pulled on us again.
     
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    like stealing money from someone and saying if they forcefully medicate their kids they can have a little back?!

    Nah can't see any use of force there
     
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    It is important to understand the difference between antigens and antibodies ... and it seems you don't ...
     
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    what because I have a different opinion to you? I think it is you who is unable to drill down and bypass the emotional opinions to get to the factual information in this story
    "recieved the mumps vaccine and shortly after developed mumps on both sides"
    The point of vaccination is not to spread mumps, the child was sick already but hadn't been diagnosed, when you vaccinate you are asked if you have any symptoms of the condition and if you say yes they don't administer the vaccine as this outcome is exactly what can happen.
    but again surrounding this pertinent fact is a lot of emotional conjecture and twisting of medical science to place the blame on the vaccine when it was in fact the actions (or inaction) of the parent that caused the child to pass away, lesson here is to be more aware of your childs health and report the truth to the medical experts rather than trying to argue with them because of something your friend told you over a coffee that a friend of a friend of hers told her who is a doctor etc.
    "since the parents couldn't find an expert witness to prove Trent died from the vaccines, they settled their case for $20,000 before it went to trial"
    proof that they had no case but it was settled by the insurer as it was economically better to do so than defend in court successfully and not be able to retrieve cost.

    This story is a red herring designed to get parents to relate to the subject matter (the loss of a child) and be more susceptible to the mumbo jumbo that the anti vaccinations groups are peddling
     
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    Re-read it. There are two names. You somehow joined the two.
     
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    Mumps exist in the biosphere whether an individual is immunised or not ... vaccination does not cause a pathogen to go into non-existence ... vaccination technology cannot solve the common cold and flu and yet a belief to inject an infant with a multiple mix is a massive insult to an underdeveloped immune system is deemed to be a good thing ... that is highly doubtful ...
     
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    Isn't that the same tactic used almost exclusively in pro-vaccine news articles?
     
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    will rocks I understand that there are 3 cases (not 2) mentioned but only one has identified cause of death the others have conveniently omitted that fact because it is most likely unrelated to the actual vaccine
    it is like saying that I get a vaccine at my doctors, walk out and get hit by a bus.
    The anti vaccination mob report,
    shortly after getting a vaccine serial was on life support in a critical condition and passed away within a few days. His family were unable to sue as they could not prove the vaccine caused the death and the vaccination creators refused to cooperate with enquiries stating that his death was "totally unrelated to the vaccine" without actually proving this is the case! His widow has said he wouldn't be dead if he didn't go get the vaccination that day
     
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    "Our studies have confirmed recent findings that the exceptionally potent aluminum adjuvant found in recombinant vaccines may cause a massive immune response if a child with an infection is vaccinated. The body may go into shock, and excrete magnesium. Serum magnesium may still appear to be within lab normal, but the magnesium inside the cell becomes depleted. When this happens, POTASSIUM UPTAKE IS INHIBITED, and the heart will go into cardiac arrest. Even if potassium is given by IV, the body will not use it if INTRACELLULAR MAGNESIUM IS LOW."

    The energetic demand on the body being stripped of its vitamins and minerals under such a challenge is tremendous ...
     
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    That is misleading ... like saying someone overdosed and it had nothing to do with the syringe ...
     
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    what did he die of? was he hit by a bus? did he swallow a button battery? did he have a brain tumour that decided to kill him then? Did he roll over in his sleep and smother himself? did he choke on a cherry pip?
    you don't know what caused his death but you automatically link his death to the vaccination and that is what the story wants you to do.
     
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    I dont care what the story purportedly wants to do ... it is about science ... mothers that breastfeed pass on antibodies in the colostrum in their milk ... and that is a far better method of "vaccination" than sticking a needle in a baby ...
     
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    The antivac's story is as misleading as my made up one, low on facts but enough information to influence people such as willrocks to draw the authors aimed conclusion. that vaccinations are bad and the people in power are hiding this from us so don't trust them
     
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    ... the vaccination creators refused to cooperate with enquiries ... how irresponsible ...
     
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    On the balance of probabilities it was the 5 vaccinations. Any other cause of death would have been identified as such, especially obvious ones that you are making jokes about.
     
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    Honestly I cannot believe that you think that the only vaccination needed is the antibodies in breast milk (fyi I am a big fan of breast feeding over bottle). The population increases you see today are as a result of vaccination science, and whilst some may argue that is a bad thing , historically mother nature has used disease to systematically control the human population which is why since the introduction of medical science such as vaccinations the human population has exploded. In other words it works and the evidence of this is easy to see if you can look past the preconceived ideas of a few
     
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    and the story has done its work, if it works on others the same way it has on you. So why would the author go out of his way to identify the actually cause when it doesn't help his cause? or more to the point why does the auther not actually state the medical cause of death when it is obviously so relevant to the story?
    btw the other causes of death are not funny or jokes, they have been reported in WA in the last week alone hence why I drew on them as realistic causes of death
     
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    I honestly cant believe anyone would think getting FIVE diseases at the same to deal with is a good thing when many people dont handle well being sick with one affliction at a time ...

    The increase in population is not due to vaccination ... it is a predictable mathematical function ...
     
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    friend of mine had to take his little one to the hospital as he was complaining about abdominal pain. first question the nurse/doctor asked:was he recently vaccinated? so do they know something and not telling......?
     

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