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  1. Jim4silver

    Jim4silver Well-Known Member

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    I think Jim that in reality all the "bad" we hear about Trump is Truly JUST MADE UP BY THE MEDIA.
    In fact with all the anti Trump rallies i am now more than ever willing to believe that many of the demonstrators are PAID TO PLAY.
    If they were not PAID TO PLAY then the Republicans would not be winning these seats.
     
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    Obama top intelligence official has said that Russian interference of the election is a political equivalent of 9/11.
    Now i happen to consider this an absolute BS comparison yet it will probably be a dramatic enough comment to get a decent chunk of the population up in arms.
    How can any "legitimate" government type get away with making such outlandish (IMHO) comments and equivalencies?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...elligence-official-russian-hack-the-political
     
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    Jim,
    Interested in your comment on the word "liberal". Not sure what you know of Aussie politics, but the Liberal Party used to be the conservative side. Not any more though thanks to our mate Turncoat Turnbull. Might be that your president sees him for the lefty Trojan horse he is though!
     
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    Peter,

    I am not too familiar with Aussie politics but I saw on here before your Liberal Party was actually made up of conservatives. My use of the term is based on US politics liberal vs. conservative. Although I think the US leftists of today are far more dangerous to the citizens than the bible thumpers ever were, I still can't say I am a conservative or republican even though I supported Trump.

    In my mind I still see "conservatives" as a bunch of religious right folks telling everyone what to do with their lives (as they did in the 80s and 90s), and I thought they were "evil". Nowadays, that's exactly what the lefties do but instead of basing their views on a bible they use a different "religion" (socialist progressivism?), which is more "evil" than the right because the lefties have the power of the MSM and universities, etc, behind them, which the right never had in my lifetime. The way I see it the far right wants your soul (mind), but the far left wants your soul (mind), your freedoms, and your money, etc.

    Although I have been a life long democrat (up till Obummer) I won't ever vote democrat again because the dems will continue to move left until the party implodes, as it appears to be in the process of now, especially since Trump's win. The left's desire to ban gun ownership (2nd amendment) in the US is enough to make me vote for any republican even if he was a preacher/minister that wears a crucifix on his shirt.

    One positive note that I see here is that the "general public" (that I speak with) are seeing problems with the far leftist proposals and such. For some reason after Trump's win the far leftists seem to be "doubling down" on their crazy policies. It seems to be backfiring for now...
     
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    Trump has scored a SC victory for now. From what I have read in the past months, his travel ban will most likely be upheld by the SC since the prez has that right (the second one for sure, maybe the first one that was more strict in part). The opponents have tried to look into his "intent" based on his campaign rhetoric but that is not what is relevant.

    http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d2...ravel Ban/id-d5738691d91f437d820f25c234304a4a
     
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    It was always going to happen Jim.
    The Supreme court is only interested in law AS IT IS WRITTEN and they do not tend to look into the mind of the author to gauge intention.
    If the lower courts in all western countries had the same sense as higher courts life would be a lot easier.
    The lower courts putting weight behind what Trump SAID during his campaign was never right, courts should only rule on the law as it is written.
    Just imagine where all our laws would be if we were allowed to use what lawmakers have said in public even though it was not written into the laws.
    LOWER COURTS WERE ALL POLITICAL and this ruling should have have a major impact on their credibility.
     
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    Jim,
    Thanks for that. Our lefties are much the same, as is the media especially the taxpayer funded ABC which is the media branch of the left; I don't think you suffer from that!

    We have a couple of people on the right but none with Trump's gonads. Best we can hope for is enough of them in our senate to force the Liberals back to being conservative or being able to negotiate concessions by blocking legislation.
     
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    Very astute.

    You must have enjoyed seeing Abbott in the news this week. His "picking up the pieces" comments says to me he will be ready to re-assume the top job once the Libs lose the next election and Turnbull gets the ar$e. This is possibly the most likely scenario of a return to conservatism that you are talking about?

    http://theconversation.com/abbott-o...is-stepping-up-his-stalking-of-turnbull-80230

     
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    I prefer calling it propaganda to fake news. Glad it is being exposed for what it is.

    I think OKeefe should get a Nobel prize. He's the same guy that exposed planned parenthood selling dead baby parts for profit "cash flow" as they said on the hidden camera. Here's a CNN producer on tape telling it like it is about the Russia "fake" story..... Just a tease, here is a quote from the producer saying TRUMP IS RIGHT about witch hunting CNN, yet many lefty fools still won't accept the truth.

    "And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look you are witch-hunting me. You have no smoking gun. You have no real proof,” he added.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...stly-bullst-but-its-good-for-ratings-n2347215
     
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    BuggedOut,

    Yes, sort of. The risk being not getting enough conservatives in the senate to prevent the damage Labor would do. Another paradox being that its not really sound having to rely on the senate like this, but maybe necessary in the circumstances.
     
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    @AussieFideMaster

    Thanks for posting that link to a great old song, sung by Vlad. Even Goldie Hawn loved it.

    Do you realise that you will now be on a ‘list’? ha ha.

    Reading the YouTube comments below the Video is just as much fun. _JLG.

    p.s. I think he is just trying to win the hearts & minds of the American voter, – deviant that he is. lol.



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    There'll have to be a Special Senate Hearing into this. Can't have the leader of the free world making people happy. _JLG.
     
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    I'd forgotten about this GEM of a thread. "as above" them damn RUSSKIES.

    "a great old song, sung by Vlad. Even Goldie Hawn loved it." _JLG.
     

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