Toyota Gone in 2017!

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  1. Shaddam IV

    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    It's easy for us all to have opinions about who's responsible and to deride or to fly flags for political parties but the serious thing that we have to face is that there are powerful currents hitting Australia internally and externally and that no government can fix this, the Australian way of life that we have known is at it's end and we have to adapt and embrace new paradigms on a personal level and start taking total responsibility for ourselves. This country is about to drive off the map and most people are going to stand in a puddle of their own wee crying out for someone to take responsibility and save their entitlements and lifestyle. It won't happen.
     
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    You guys pay TWICE what cars cost elsewhere in the civilised World - because you let it happen - no other reason. Like most other consumer goods you forego a fantastic potential lifestyle in this fabulous country by way of taxation direct & indirect into the ground - willingly, and stupidly - you do not question why it costs $5 for a kilo of broccoli when you can buy that for a dollar in other countries, or why your property is twice the UK average. Blame your minimum wage - I do. As an employer in UK I have 12 staff, several of whom are part time on $9 ph (UK 6.35 ph) - but their outgoings and cost of living are HALF what they are here - so do the math - they can afford HALF as much again of food & consumer goods that you can lol!!! A bloody short sharp shock is what's req'd for the Aussie economy people... And you're closer than any other PacRim nation for white goods & electronics - WHY aren't they 30% cheaper here?!?!!?! Instead, again, they're 40-60% more expensive. Get a grip Australia - you're being bled dry. An $8 bloody cauliflower?!?!?!?!?! RIDICULOUS!
     
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    Don't worry the housing market is flying and the banks are hugely profitable


    All the people losing their jobs can become real estate agents and banksters

    problem solved
     
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    Oh yeah! How that government is going to create new jobs, that's the defining thing ... for the "hope and change" spin doctors!

    The chances of any government creating new, sustainable, value-creating jobs are around zero.

    Rely on them and you will be disappointed.
     
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    I don't follow any party. To me they are essentually the same heading down the same road only that once every four years they argue over who gets to drive the bus.
     
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    Will the end of local manufacturing be the end of the luxury car tax?

    By all rights it f-ing should do!!!
     
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    This what worries me.....All these factories are in suburban areas where most workers dont have to travel too far to and from work each day........ Where the hell are all these 'new jobs' going to just miraculously appear from to support these 'half skilled' workers and ther mortgages??? :mad:
     
  8. Shaddam IV

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    Or in the case of the last "government" it was Labor, the Greens and the 3 independents fighting over the controls of an aeroplane that none of them knew how to fly.
     
  9. Shaddam IV

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    They will all have to start their own businesses and to support themselves. If they are so skilled it should be a piece of cake for them.
     
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    Qantas will come cap in hand looking for some cash to keep them airborne.

    Looks like all the skilled jobs in heavy manufacturing will be gone.

    Maybe a new trend into medical manufacturing as well as 3D printers may be the way of the future.

    If Australia doesn't come up with new industries fast then we are destined to remain a quarry, a hard pressed farming community and a tourist playground.

    We can't all be businessmen , retail workers, fast food presenters , social workers and health workers.

    Now lets see how good the blue and red teams are at saving ordinary Australians from having the black dog on their back.

    Regards Errol 43
     
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    We have the most profitable banking system in the world - we should all become bankers.
     
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    Way overpriced housing means everyone needs huge wages to pay off their ridiculous mortgages, hence the costs of everything is so high.

    Until the housing prices come down by at least a third this country will continue to stagnate.
     
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    China could do the medical manufacturing or India is getting into the medical side of things, farming community? Lots of countries are buying up the farms and the abattoirs in Australia are being taken over by Brazilian companies who are bringing in Brazilian workers to work in them. We are also importing most of the frozen veg. Fruit is exported from China to NZ and then shipped to Australia as NZ produce to get around import laws (govt is supposed to be looking at that now?) fruit trees are being ploughed in everywhere. Orange juice is imported from Brazil, not sure if it happened yet but imports of bananas from the Philippines will kill the banana industry. A huge amount of Banana farms have been gobbled up by that American company (starts with a c, can't remember the name of it)

    15 of the 22 sugar mills in Australia are foreign owned, the Qatar Govt invested a $500 million in one year into buying agriculture related business in Australia.

    Call centres Philippines and India have taken most of those jobs, a lot of IT stuff has gone to India and more is going. Banks are sending a lot of jobs to India as well.

    It is cheaper to have the work done overseas, why the hell would anyone be employed here it can all be done much cheaper overseas.

    A very large percentage of people becoming unemployed now will become long term unemployed. I can not see it getting better.
     
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    Hey hey hey you there be careful or Bubba from the AMU will be around to give you a visit. How can a collection of independent and family-run small businesses provide the union with the fees and kickbacks they are accustomed to from the wage slaves. Don't be a rat!

    (Sarcasm, everyone PLEASE see the sarcasm)
     
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    looks like donations come from very similar places, some of the businesses donate to both big party's.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/interactives/tables/aec-political-donations-table/

    The unions are the wanka's ruining this country. Greed

    The government should not pay the wages for failing businesses, let them die a natural death. I sure as hell dont want my taxes spent on a GIANT like Amatil so the bosses can have their bonuses. Toyota makes money not loses it, let them pay for their own business. The mentality that our taxes are there to pay wages shits me.

    Dear Mr Abbot,

    As the official replacement for Mr Rudd -

    Please find below our suggestion for fixing Australia 's economy.



    Instead of giving billions of dollars to car companies & other businesses that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan..



    You can call it the "PATRIOTIC RETIREMENT PLAN"



    There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force.



    Pay them $1 million each severance for

    early retirement with the following stipulations:



    1) They MUST retire.

    Ten million job openings

    - unemployment fixed!



    2) They MUST buy a new Australian car.

    Ten million cars ordered

    - Car Industry fixed!



    3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off

    their mortgage

    - Housing Crisis fixed!



    4) They MUST send their kids

    to school/college/university -

    Crime rate fixed!



    5) They MUST buy $100 WORTH

    of alcohol/tobacco a week ...

    and there's your money back in duty/tax etc..



    6) Instead of 'stuffing around' with the carbon emissions trading scheme that makes us pay for the major polluters, tell the greedy bastards to reduce their pollution emissions by 75% within 5 years or we shut them down.



    7) Cut down on pollies perks - they earn enough money to pay for their own petrol, food, drinks, airfares for their wives & families like all other hard working Aussies do. We pay big money.. but we still get MONKEYS!!!



    8) No government credit cards for pollies - let them get their own then they will be more careful about how they use it and pay up on time so as not to incur interest.



    It can't get any easier than that!



    P.S. If more money is needed, have all members of parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances..
     
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    "First borrow the TEN TRILLION DOLLARS!"

    Waddya think Tony Abbott is, a SOCIALIST?
     
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    Manufacturing makes up 7% of GDP, in 3 years it will be about 5%. During "Dutch disease" their manufacturing slumped to 20%.

    There is a perfect storm brewing with the closure of the auto industry and drop off on mining investment (CAPEX). In 3 years there will be a massive wave of unemployment. More macro shocks and this could turn massive... like 1890s-type massive.

    Blaming unions is utter stupidity. Unions make up less than 20% of the workforce (17%?), yes they have corrupt officials but the problems Awstrayla is facing has more to do with corrupted politicians and their shocking- almost criminal response to a once-in-a-century mining boom (i.e., Howard and cronies, how are the piggeries going?): handouts left right and centre, pump prime real estate and let the financial sector run amok, while opening a FLOODGATE of immigration with pitiful investment in infrastructure.

    This is will end bady because of the ineptitude, corruption, and dishonesty of politicians - who are in part a reflection of the electors who support them.
     
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    "Blaming unions is utter stupidity. Unions make up less than 20% of the workforce (17%?"


    Disagree!

    Unions caused the loss of the car companies, and in due course the supply chain for them. Then the SPC, and many of the manufacturing companies that went to China because it was not worth the candle to stay and compete in OZ.

    Rivers could not compete while manufacturing here, so they went to China and the jobs are lost. Bought a pair of sandals yesterday, half the price and just as good!

    This nation is in for a VERY hard lesson.

    OC
     
  20. Shaddam IV

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    Unions just put us into around 200 billion dollars worth of debt via their political arm, they own an entire major political party and it's current leader is a hard core ex unionist. I blame unions completely for the economic mess that we have sunk into in the last 6 years. The Labor Party IS the unions.
     

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