Top 10 All Natural Anti-Viral Compounds

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    Top 10 All Natural Anti-Viral Compounds

    1. Colloidal silver
    Various forms of silver have been used medicinally since ancient times. In fact, from 1900 until about 1940 silver was used in mainstream medicine to treat a wide variety of ailments. Silver is believed to work by interfering with the enzymes that allow bacteria, fungi, and viruses to utilize oxygen. Clinical trials that involve injections of silver dramatically reduced the activity of the HIV virus in those suffering from AIDS. There have yet to be any clinical trials involving oral administration of silver but there are numerous personal accounts of its effectiveness in regards to hepatitis C.
    2. Echinacea
    The flower Echinacea (Echinacea purpurea) has been used by the Native Americans for hundreds of years for medicinal purposes. It’s known to support the immune system and has a direct antiviral action. In a 2009 study published by Virology, researchers examined the efficacy of a standardized extract from Echinacea in combating the H1N1 strain of swine influenza. Results yielded that H1N1-type influenza, pathogenic avian influenza, and swine-origin influenza were all inhibited when introduced to Echinacea purpurea in vitro. Specifically, the Echinacea extract impacted the receptor binding mechanism of the viruses, meaning it helped prevent viral entry into cells.
    3. Zinc
    In numerous double-blind, placebo involved, controlled trials, zinc have been shown to be very effective against the common cold.
    4. Garlic
    This herb has been cultivated for probably more than 5,000 years. It’s been used for medicinal purposes since the days of the pharaohs. It’s been used as a folk remedy to help protect and stop the symptoms of colds and flus. Lab studies show that garlic has antibacterial, antifungal, and antiviral compounds.
    5. Elderberry
    The common black elderberry (sambucus nigra) seems to be very effective against the flu virus. More than 90 percent of 15 patients involved in a double blind clinical trial who took 60 ml extracts showed a large reduction in symptoms after just two days and a complete recovery in only three day. It’s thought that elderberry extract disarms the tiny spikes on the surface of the virus, which disarms the flu virus. Elderberry also contains flavonoids, including quercetin, which is also believed to be involved in the healing actions of elderberry.
    6. Oregano
    Oregano oil is super beneficial for a variety of illnesses including coughs, bronchitis, asthma, respiratory infections, mouth ulcers and other types of oral infections, cold sores, gallbladder infections, Lyme disease, sore throats, and tonsillitis, just to name a few. Many people use oregano oil for gastrointestinal issues, even for killing and removing parasites from the body! For all kinds of respiratory problems, you can’t beat some oregano oil in a diffuser.
    7. Olive Leaf
    Olive leaves contain a very bitter substance called oleuropein. Oleuropein has one component called elenoic acid, which has been shown to be a strong inhibitor of various viruses in lab tests. Elenoic acid contains a calcium salt, which destroyed every virus it was tested for including herpes, influenza, coxsackie, and polio viruses. It appears to work by stopping the viruses to replicate themselves. Hamsters used in studies have also shown that olive leaf reduces the level of a certain type of influenza and stopped its spread to the lungs.
    Budapest conducted an uncontrolled clinical trial with more than 500 patients and came to the conclusion that olive leaf extract was quite effective in treating a wide variety of illnesses. 115 out of 119 subjects with respiratory infections, along with 120 out of 172 subjects with viral skin infections, such as herpes, experienced an extremely quick and full recovery after taking olive leaf extract.
    8. Licorice
    The SARS epidemic promoted a search for an active compound that would treat viral diseases such as SARS. The Institute of Medical Virology in Frankfurt had researchers test four pharmaceuticals against a compound found in the root of licorice plants for the treatment of coronavirus from SARS patients.
    Licorice greatly reduced the virus’s ability to reproduce itself as well as inhibit the virus from penetrating healthy cells. Licorice has also been shown to stop the reproduction of HIV in lab studies. A 2003 study published by The Lancet evaluated licorice root’s antiviral potential in the treatment of SARS, or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. Specifically, researchers observed antiviral activity of the active components ribavirin, 6-azauridine, pyrazofurin, mycophenolic acid, and glycyrrhizin against SARS-associated coronavirus infection. Results yielded that, of all tested compounds, glycyrrhizin was the most potent in inhibiting viral replication.

    9. St John’s Wort
    The two active compounds in St John’s Wort, hypericin and pseudohypericin, are very active against what is known as enveloped viruses. This type of virus actually tears off cell membranes and hides inside, as a means of fooling antibodies. HIV, hepatitis C, and the herpes virus are all enveloped viruses. The active compounds in St Johns wart don’t appear to be fooled by these enveloped cells and destroy them while leaving healthy cells intact.
    10. Cat’s Claw
    Since the early 1970’s, cats claw has been researched throughout Germany, Peru, England, and many other countries. This herb is now one of the top selling remedies in the United States. Besides being a potent antiviral, cat’s claw is also antibacterial and antifungal. The bark and roots of this plant have been well documented for boosting the immune system. Other compounds in cats claw works to kill viruses, bacteria, and other types of pathogens or microorganisms that can cause disease.

    In addition there are other alternative compounds like MMS, H2O2, Zapper, Lugol, Borax, Turpentine, Vit C etc.
    We have ample defence against the virus. So forget about joining in the hysteria of stocking up masks and toilet paper. Spend the time to brew more colloidal silver instead and share with family and friends.
     
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    Have a look-see at L-Lysine. Anti-viral properties.
     
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    The ideas above are interesting, but should be regarded as speculation. There’s a giant leap from what happens in a test tube to IRL. I would not stake my life on those recommendations. At an airport and in times to come, on the plane, a quality mask seems reasonable. I’d get the loo paper. You will be wiping your backside anyway.

    The only trials there are zinc and elderberries. AFAIK zinc was in vogue maybe 15-20 years ago, not so much now.

    Elderberries are ripe for harvest right now so if you have access to a cheap supply it might be worth freezing a bag if you like them.

    We’ll have to see what happens in Holland to appreciate if liquorice has any merit.

    The number one “all natural” anti-viral compound is ethanol. It might be time to invest in a still (for educational purposes).
     
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    Why do you think the ideas above should be regarded as speculation??? I and my family has been using most of these thinks and I haven't had any kind of flu in 50 years. Coincidence-NO!
    There are natural products,which can help you strengthen immune system responsible for your well being. For me -any kind of artificial medication produced by Big Pharma should be regarded as speculation as they weaken your immune system and cause a lot health problems....
    edit: I would consider garlic and vitamin c /in big doses/ as the most important products in fight with any kind of viruses...
     
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    People with auto-immune diseases should avoid those herbal medicines. Seek professional advice before self-administering.
     
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    There was a British physician who became a prisoner of war in World War 2, in a Japanese camp. He was camp physician for around 20000 prisoners. The only drugs he had were aspirin and I think sulphur powder (would have to check).

    What was remarkable to him was even though he had really nothing at all to treat patients, just how many of them got better anyway, with nothing. When he went back to England with this knowledge, he founded what is now called evidence based medicine, because at that time a lot of medicine was based on the kind of study quoted by the OP, ie huckstering. People got better anyway and were none the wiser, thinking all the time that it was the treatment that got them better.

    It is easy to fall for it when the product is touted as “natural” with a charismatic, forceful advocate. But it makes little difference as far as disease goes. The difference is in the mind, what is called placebo effect.

    Evidence based medicine is quite a new thing, something that was only called that in the late 1990s to my knowledge.

    I would say to you very clearly, if the evidence for treating life threatening viral respiratory infection is chomping on garlic and vitamin C, with all the brains involved in medicine around the world, why is it not offered?

    You will have your own answer to this question.

    Mine is this: there is no good quality evidence. The evidence may be that it’s not any better than chance. It’s not harmful and provides emotional comfort (just as charlatans do). No problem there. But the evidence may be that it does nowt in terms of cure and with a virus like this Covid19, that is cold comfort indeed.
     
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    Why is so? That's what the ;doctor; are saying. Why they should avoid something natural to be proof for thousand years and rely on something made in chemical laboratory ...
    Yes-I agree some of the products should be used under supervision of very experience professional/if you don't know how to use it/-but the problem is to find one who will be willing to do so....
     
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    Basically because auto-immune diseases occur when the body fails to distinguish between good cells and bad cells so the body's immune system attacks the good cells. If you suffer from an auto-immune disease what you want is to avoid immune stimulating herbs otherwise you're just boosting the immune system's capacity to create more damage. Students of Chinese herbal medicine and Ayurvedic medicine are taught these contraindications. It's something that peddlers of folk remedies may not even be aware of. That's why seeking professional advice, whether its from a doctor or a herbalist (preferably both as traditional medicines are a great complementary treatment) is advisable.
     
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    https://www.cloverleaffarmblog.com/autoimmune-diseases-herbs-avoid-better-health/2015/02/
     
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    It won't be offered-because simply of BIG money lost to Big Pharma. If they manage to cure a lot of people with alternative medicine they could lose billions in revenue from medication. Patient cured,patient lost-they don't let this happen.
    You have to find answer for yourself doing a bit more medical research from different source,from doctors who lost licence because they have cured the patient/using alternative medicine/
    rather than follow Pig Pharma protocol....
     
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    I don’t agree with that.

    If what you said was true, you are saying the whole world, literally the whole world, all the doctors, are in on some stupid conspiracy with big pharmaceutical companies. This is delusional.

    If garlic and vitamin C worked, then they would have been used in Wuhan, with good results. My guess is there are some very dead people who smelled of garlic in their last gasp of breath!
     
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    This is correct-if you have auto-immune diseases you are not using immune stimulating herbs,but you can youse some others unter supervision of medical practitioners-the problem is to find good one and 99 percent will prescribe artificial medication which in some cases should be avoid the same as herbs...
    Edit:auto-immune diseases are small percent compare to others diseases where herbs are very beneficial...
     
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    Well -you are entitled to have your own opinien and if you are comfortable with your innerworld that's fine. if you've got chance to check what the doctors were taught 60 years ago and compare with the book from 30 years ago you will understand how much of medical knowledge has been omitted from medical school on purpose. This is not conspiracy with Big Pharma-this is a fact and you able to check. Not all doctors-but most of them have to follow protocol-if not they can be deregistered even if they can cure patient.Do you think this delusional? Most doctors have limited knowledge and taking everything on face value what's have been taught at school-to treat only symptom ,not to look after whole body.mind and spirit.
    Garlic,vitamin c and some other medication won't work when is to late and your immune system is weak-you needs months and years of hard work to gain olympic medal-the same is with your health-not to rush to the door when Wuhan virus is on the horizon-doesn't work that way....
     
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    I'd be interested in your regime and how you incorporate the above if you'd share.
     
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    Yes -I'll do tomorrow with pleasure...
     
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    Vit C does work for flu and cold, but it has to be applied very quickly, probably on the first or second day of infection, on the earliest sign of fatigue and discomfort. And preferably on the form of oranges, 6-8 oranges per day. I bought a bottle of Blackmore vit c last month. They appear to work, not sure of other Brands. Fresh oranges are still the best as they contain other antioxidants than vit c.

    I’m exploring essential oils that can be inhaled, they might prove very useful since the virus infects the lungs and breathing in the antiviral will be a direct application.
     
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    Minimilled,

    Your claim that Vitamin C is not used by doctors in Wuhan is false. A truck load of 50 tons of Vitamin C was delivered to Wuhan hospitals weeks ago, specifically, to combat coronavirus. Wuhan’s top research physicians are using vitamin C.

    The news about Vitamin C and COVID-19 Coronavirus was not just totally ignored by western mainstream media but actively supressed. WHO is working with Google, Facebook and others to suppress communication exchanged about the use of vitamin C with coronavirus patients.

    Brave physicians who know about the power of vitamin C are a small minority. Your average physicians know little about vitamin C and what little they know is false. Anyone who knows how to use vitamin C knows its power in prevention, reducing symptoms and buying time for the immune system to mount an effective response to an infection. There is a well-presented case of a NZ swine flu patient left for dead by the medical establishment yet recovered because of vitamin C administration in the last minute. Vitamin C: The Miracle Cure 60 Minutes Living Proof.

    If you want to start learning about Vitamin C and its therapeutic power, you will find these two books an excellent start:

    Levy, Thomas Vitamin C, infectious Diseases & Toxins 2002.

    Hickey Steve & Saul, Andrew, Vitamin C: The real story 2008

    Forum members who are suspicious of the medical establishment are not delusional. They are often INTJ personalities with a fiercely independent mind - not impressed by authority or conventions. Only facts and rationality counts with them.


    Cheers
     
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    What you say about early use of Vitamin C is correct but only for oral route, because there is a limit to what the digestive system can absorb and deliver to the blood stream, but if you bypass the digestive system and deliver directly into the blood (IV) then you can deliver sufficient doses to deal with more advanced infections.

    There is also lysosomal vitamin C that is taken orally but bypasses the digestive system and gives better results than powder for advanced infection - see the NZ case in the previous post.
     
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    Pretty good list and silver IS STILL USED TODAY as a modern tool as i can pop down to the pharmacy and buy silver laced bandages and plasters.
    The only other thing i would say is there a HUGE difference between showing an effect in labs tests and in body tests.
    One more often than not transfer the same results to live test subjects.
     
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    This is a conspiratorial fringe viewpoint and if it is held with conviction despite all the evidence, yes it is delusional!

    The evidence for vitamin C is not as good as you seem to think it is. In fact, current understanding of the evidence is that it’s no better than swallowing a smartie (for prevention).
     
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