Tony A's alleged slight on childless PM

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  1. REDBACK

    REDBACK Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Today on 3AW the air waves were abuzzzzzzz with opposition leader Tony A's alleged stab at a childless PM via a poorly worded answer to questions regarding baby bonus payments.
    My question to both the PM and Tony A.......Can I stop paying my taxes and your wage until you guys stop acting like Primary school kids and resume paying when I consider I am getting value for money.
    I am working my Ass off to try and keep the country afloat!!
    Just once I'd like to see you do something productive with your day because at the moment both of you are just dead weight.
    Regards
    Your employer
    REDBACK
     
  2. hawkeye

    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    lol Redback.

    You're assuming the public servant thing is true and not just a label that they use to make you think you are in charge of them. Kind of like how they call themselves honourable. The facts kind of negate the labels in both cases.
     
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    REDBACK Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Agreed,i am still a believer in bringing abusers of the system to heel though.Sadly a large portion of our supposed government representatives fall under the abuser's category.
    Vote 1 for accountability at any price.

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    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    You know, you could really get me started on this... :)

    You have to ask why the trivialities, why the school yard behaviour, why the nonsense etc. There are reasons for it but then you have to look at the reasons for the reasons and keep digging further and getting down to the bottom is an uncomfortable place for most people. Hell, even I felt discomfort at first, which tells you how bad it is.

    Here are a few reasons off the top of my head
    1) It's distractions. Anything they can do to distract people from looking at actual issues they are happy to do. if they can keep people focussed on other things then they won't be able to ask the real questions. It's known as framing the debate. Trivialities are great for the politicians. Whther it's the personal lives of the leaders, or railing against boat "invaders" or gay rights, whatever.
    2) We have a childish society. The govt doesn't provide proper education allowing for critical thinking. What it wants is for people to be obedient and obey the govt. This leads to more and more people not growing up and being responsible and independent. Which leads to more dependence on the govt. Happens in every socialist country.
    3) People don't want to look at the realities. There are dark thoughts that they don't want to think about and don't want to talk about. Few want to question the system which relates to the first 2 parts. Much easier if you can just focus on your pet rant, whatever that might be.

    Don't want to rant in your thread but there's some starting points. Your points above are just the tip of a very large iceberg.
     
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    If he did say that she wouldn't understand not being a parent isn't that a fact as opposed to any slight? Regardless of whether she is not a mother by choice or not, she is nonetheless childless and as such cannot understand how this payment may assist those that have had children.

    That said I think that the only reason why this payment was ever given was to increase population and from there maintain or increase economic growth, and you have to wonder whether it achieved this aim. It's other aim of course was to give "cash for votes". Political parties' throwing cash at people to garner their vote appears to be a favourite tactic of all those parties.
     
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    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    The question at that point should then be why do they want to keep the population growing? Is there any point talking about the corruption behind it all? It's a given in pretty much everything they do really.

    Why are they doing the things they are doing if most people don't seem to want it? Why is the natural process of people just choosing to procreate as much as they want, when they want, not good enough for the govt?

    Are they following the will of the people? And if not, why not? And if they aren't, are they right not to, ie, do they have more information than average joe?
     
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    REDBACK you should know you cannot incubate a human in a body colder than 36.7 degrees
     
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    :lol: :lol:
     
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    She's foolishly fallen or been cleverly lead into, the trap of defending her weaknesses... and by default shining a light on whatever they may been seen to be, (she'll have to defend being a Bulldogs supporter next ;-) )

    Hiding behind the P.C. banner is 'trump card' you only get to use once. Anything after that becomes a pattern of behaviour... and eventually everyone gets tired of a serial whinger.
     
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    REDBACK Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    There's no defending being a bulldogs supporter and i am not a one eyed Richmond supporter either ;)
     
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    Whenever Tony A says something ridiculous, his supporters always say "a pox on both their houses"...........which is trying to deflect attention from the fact that Julia was just going about her day not insulting anybody.
    It's like talking to a Queenslander and the inevitable defeat of their arguments always concludes with "Don't blame me, I can only know what I read in the one-and-only newspaper up here."
     
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    Browski..Are you trying to start an interstate war with your comments about the men from the north? :(

    Regards Errol 43
     
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    ^^^^
    He's lying Errol... everyone knows we Queenslanders can't read :p
     
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    In fact what he actually said regarding the timing of multiple children and the need to upgrade the hardware and utilise cash payments to suit was spot on.
    Any parent can understand his logic.
    The attention then focused on the ending of his statement which was a total waste of the media and elected (Ha ha) officials time.
    It was making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    If this happened in the business world they would be told to pull their fingers out,get over it and get on with the job.
    As to the presupposition about Julia not insulting anybody,have you watched Parliament?..i fail to understand why they call it question time,it reminds me of scraps we all had on the oval in primary school at lunchtime-Lots of shouting and hot winded talk but very little substance.

    Hiho's a Queenslander and i would bet an all in poker hand on him winning 99% of his chosen arguments :cool:


    REDBACK
     
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    No one in any part of gov't can understand every aspect of where every dollar might be spent anyway. That is what advisers and researchers are for. They research the cause by talking to peole who do need whatever it is and report back to decision makers.

    I don't know about the latest TA -JG event but while the exact day in day out issues of parenthood might be unknown to her, pretty sure she can figure out the basics. I'm pretty sure Tony Abbot hasn't experienced a lot of things people want money for either.
     
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    Julia going about her day ? .....Screw the country I need to stay in power, screw the country we need a surplus cause we said we would have one, There will be no truth under the gubermint I lead, Shame shame and more shame on the ALP, screw that I need to stay in power.
     
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    Tony's just a complete dud,who will tell any lie to get power.No style and and born without a heart.A nasty,vulgar ,negative,so called Christian.A little man by any standards.
    No policy,just tries to stop the government proceeding by being negative all the time.

    But ,I suppose,this is the liberal way when out of power.
    When in power,they just give the rich whatever they want,at the expense of the poor.
     
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    Are you for real ,you just descibed Juliar and the labour party to a tee (exept the god bothering bit )
     
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    What you've displayed by your irrelevant, and (once again) issue-distracting post is that you are too over-invested in your partisan position. My advice would be for you to back away from this hysterical tone, be less emotional and become more objective. You will find life more easy to navigate if you can stand apart from the silliness. Alternatively, just carry-on and be easily manipulated by those who specialize in predictive behaviour.
     
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    She's childless....... and uses that fact to pose as a victim should anyone oppose her

    She's a woman...... and uses that fact to pose as a victim should.........

    She's seriously "out of shape"...... and would likely use that fact to pose as a victim should..........

    She's a redhead........... and would likely use that fact to pose as a victim should .............

    She's hasn't a clue............ and would likely use that fact to pose as a victim should..........
     

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