Time to ban festivals

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  1. BuggedOut

    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    You guys debating about drug testing make me laugh.

    How is this supposed to work in the real world, where political correctness and cover-your-ar$e thinking dominates?

    Who exactly is going to perform the test and say "Yes, this drug is fine" ??? The same person who will get their ar$e sued when the user then goes ahead and has too much.

    Every single test would need to come back with "This is dangerous, you shouldn't take it" thus rendering the test useless as users will quickly realize the test is a waste of time.

    Come back to the real world and think about it.
     
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    It already works in the real world.

    http://inthemix.junkee.com/meet-the-sensible-countries-that-allow-pill-testing/136951
     
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    Read the post above it. In any case I hope they come up with something, but it won't be a drug test.

    And people still overdose in Netherlands festivals due to bad drugs.

    You just don't hear about it, like 20 people overdosing in Melbourne wouldn't be a big story there,
     
  4. BuggedOut

    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I'm not convinced.

    In the Netherlands a wide spectrum of drugs are already legal. That makes a big difference.

    Try this resource :-

    http://www.unharm.org/drug_checking_brief

    A snippet....

    It's a poor solution to a bigger problem. Legalize and make sure supply is accredited and dosages are prescribed specific for the individual.
     
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    I think thats why half the states in the US legalised pot . They realised it was a cash cow.
    Lets face it marijuana is a non lethal drug,thats something that cant be said about many of big pharma drugs or alcohol but they can be bought legally
     
  6. Big A.D.

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    Why are we even discussing this?

    They do it in Europe.

    It works.

    Less people die and OD.

    The young people taking the drugs are quite happy to dump them and lose their money if they're told the drugs are bad quality and will fsck them up.

    The quality of the drugs get better when dealers find they can't get away with cutting the drugs with crap.

    Testing is free for users and cheap for providers. Ambulances and ICU wards are expensive for everyone.

    Locating and contacting people who take drugs is very difficult. Getting them to walk into your booth at a festival where you can give them info on counseling and what particular chemicals do to the body is easy.

    Testing a wide range of samples provides useful data on what drugs are actually on the street and in what kind of quantities. Early contact at a testing booth means information about a really dangerous pill can be publicized before lots of people take it.

    Where there's an event with a comprehensive harm minimization strategy (like in Europe), if the testing tent finds a particularly nasty pill, they'll take a photo of it and put it up on big screens to warn anyone who has one they haven't taken yet that it's potentially very dangerous.

    Seriously, height, weight, Body-Mass Index can all be factored into the testing and the people who perform the tests don't give people their own personal opinion on whether the pill is "good" or "bad". They simply say "this pill contains x% blah, y% blah and z% blah. If you'd like to know more about any of those substances, just ask. Blah is particularly damaging to the kidneys so you might want to find out more before you take that pill".

    People are going to take drugs. Fact of life.

    You can either give them better information to make informed choices or stand back, say "Don't do that" and feel smug while you open your wallet to pay for the hospital that has to deal with the mass poisonings.
     
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